It was noon when I said that and I though we will have 6. And I did NOT say "no problem" do not put words in my mouth.
dogo if your team is at the server before random time it is not my fault you can´t blame me or my team from that. And evening when you asked are we ready I said to you right away that lets play next week we have only 3 online and if we can´t field team then you can have your forfeit win. So actually YOU wasted my time 50min to settle this.
Isok it was just a bit annyoing, beeing there at 21:00 CET and non of your team showing. Was a bit of time waste, but it´s settled now. Just make sure u tell ur opponent in time that u cant field six ( maybe u did, but it didnt get through to me until it was 10 to 22:00.)
You fucking left before us, when did this league become about winning forfeits and not playing. I want jiriki back. Forfeits were always frowned upon and playing was always encouraged - you have honestly cheated us here and it is a fucking joke.
well maybe get your real team going for once. Not everybody has time to play 2 matches in a row on a sunday evening.
If u want to play matches tell ur opponent in time that u dont have 6 ( last week) and dont make them wait. And make sure u got atleast 6 (without merc!) for the 2nd time.
I fully admit beeing a fucking asshole right here. But I dont accept playing a postponed game and then not beeing able to play the "real" game afterwards. (now at 20:00 cet)
Sunday 31 : Isok: i will have 6.
6 SD players join the server from 20:00 to 20:45. Only Isok fom AAAA joined the server, we acept postpone a bit pissed of.
Sunday 7: time of play 18;00, 6 sd join server.
18:45 AAAA only have 4-5 players, we refused use 1div mercs.
We type ready, 10 seconds before they lose forfeit i type unready and acept lump(our referee) to merc with they.
Ready, ready, gobot crash we f4.
They wanted 1-0 for them, then i rage and dont acept more mercs for next rounds. It is all. Thx for waste our time and pissed off us.
Danny and lump agree with we won 3-1
if you had allowed our merc if would have been fine and then when we played with lump you guys just quit. Why didn't you play the second round or replay the first? You just insta rage quit from the server. Absolute BULLSHIT.
I demand that lump will be removed as admin. He was abusing forfeit clock against our team when we played against HIS team. Now he abused rules again against us.
We lost last ensl finnal 4-0 becouse i did acept to Proffesors get Marko and another merc to play. I did wanted to acept another merc(not 1div) for you in this match, and your unpolite actutude pissed me off, that's why i didn't acept more rounds and more discussions.
Saying he was div 1 was a weak excuse to push us towards a forfeit, that is what you were doing and now it is plainly obvious. DeZ is on your team and he is div1. Sheep hasn't played for 2 years. So stop chatting shit.
You wanted to get teh forfeit from the start, without even playing the rounds and with your buddy lump you got it.
well dogo, if u wanna fight with rules, so be it :)
we were willing to replay the first round, where gobot crashed (?), and you claimed he was raging about mercs
right after this, i lost internet connection, when i came back, your team were gone (this was about 3-4 minutes, max)
rules says, that you can only win the match with forfeit, if you with the first 2 rounds with forfeit, which you clearly didnt. even if we accept that you won the first round with forfeit (which we were willing to replay), there couldn't be enough time for the 2nd 10 minutes to pass (by the time i came back), so here is the billion dollar question, why the fuck did you recive your forfeit ?
(also, we are more than willing to play this fuckin match)
lump didnt do anything wrong tbh. We just didnt accept the merc, which is okay concering rules, isnt it.
And as dogo said, we didnt want to have any bad surprises with mercs once more.
and I think dogo´s post above , summarizes it pretty good, and the reason I didnt see a point in playing.
Sunday 31: dogo: you ready to play?
IsoK: we don´t have 6 can we play next week?
And then dogo says something that gobot wants to take ff win.
I join the server and after 50min they agree to post pone. (there was no ref or anything but just at the end and FF clock was never even started)
Sunday 7: sd had players at server as well as AAAA. sd said last week we can have 1 merc, but sd suddently says our merc is too good and sd starts to run ff clock. we try to get our 6, but are forced to take lump becouse time runs out. gobot don´t want lump to merc and rage quits. We are ready to replay the round(joined again marines) sd quits the server and lump informs us that sd don´t allow mercs anymore and that score will be 1-3 to sd. Were did our 10mins go to get our last to second round?
Isok tbh. rules were on our sides. Not accepting a merc is legal. Taking forfeit win because others dont have 6 is "legal" too. It´s just not really friendly, okay.
WE HAD 6. Last one was inc, but couldn´t make to first round before ff clock ran out! With in 5mins he was in server. So we had this according the rules.
Dogo.. we didnt play you in the final last season (and never used Marko to merc)
AND
stop being dicks and replay this match..
On a rules note.. as I understand it AAAA won the first round and the last 3 could be replayed.. since that would be silly.. try and replay the whole thing..
When we started first round gobot leave, then we f4 (2second after start) then they didn't want to replay this round. Then i didn't want to acept more mercs for AAAA and end that stupid situation.
When we started first round gobot leave, then we f4 (2second after start) then they didn't want to replay this round. Then i didn't want to acept more mercs for AAAA and end that stupid situation.
I did want to play, but this is the second time what we wait 50 minutes in server and they can't get 6. I don't want to see more my team pissed off with me about AAAA.
@tom "SD never properly accepted the mercs." How can you accept merc not properly???
And you said sheep can play at the match even if he joins our team, but now you say he could have. Witch one is it?
@dogo do not cry about div1 mercs you didn´t accept lump as a merc for us and he is far from div1. That only proofs you never even intended to play if you had any excuse.
I said that if he joins the team, SD can agree to let him play and that would be no merc.
But without joining the team, they have to agree to let him merc.
@Isok, well they raged when we started because the clan wasn't happy with the merc situation (me). They said ready first remember, that's how the clock was counting down.
Let´see how the situation looks at the end of the season. Maybe there is time to replay this game, maybe there is not. If it is and u can finally field 6 of your OWN team 100%. We can try to replay if it´s still possible.
Well whining about the merc stuff: Maybe ppl should answer to the question " who is that merc" instead of "ur mum". Some ppl of AAA didnt get how "serious" the situation, was I think.
Oh and a merc can really change a lot I think. We are all pretty inactive, so a merc doesnt spoil the teamplay too much. And even in div2 it shouldnt be too hard finding some1 decent to improve the roster.
So basically if you need the points to win the season you'll leave it how it is but if you are winning you'll replay it. Fucking dirty gobot, why take the division so seriously it is div 2 ffs, just play the damn matches nobody gives a shit who wins.
Also what I think really happened with gobot causing an f4 was that they didn't really have 6, some were afk but they kept the ready clock ticking for the forfeit, but bam when we had the players and readied they didn't so had to f4/fake a crash for the replay.
lol I just offered u to replay, in honset. But your behaviour is one of the reasons I wont do that now. We had 6 but, as I said I didnt have time for 2 matches at that evening. And since I m the only comm in the team you cannot say find some1 else. Fact was, if we dont have 6 at the day of the replay we dont have to play. That is what was arranged last week. And you again playing with mercs, made me say: OKAY SD cant play 2 matches at one day and u play with mercs again -> GG !
and what u just wrote at last is just bullshit man. Of course we had 6 -.-
There even was the talk about postponing the match again. But okay, from your side it more sounded like: postpone -> SD loses forfeit because we cant play now. (atleast that is what I recognized)
@tom When you joined our team dogo typed mercsok and we typed ready. Round starts gobot rages out and we win the round. So that gives us ability to replay or take the round. We take the round(we have point and everything already). So this means SD raged out of the server at 2nd round. If they say they don´t accept any merc they should have started the clock and give us 10min to get our last to server. Not leave server and tell you that they take ff win. So thats ff win for us!
@gobot read the 4th comment in this page. It´s written by dogo your team LEADER. Check the dates and times also. Now why you were supriced we had A MERC?
well the problem was, ppl didnt get when I said: I CANT PLAY. I just joined for the purpose of being 6! FFS. Maybe stop trolling on servers!
So if we cant field 6 ( in case of the matches at one day, as I said multiple times before) we have to postpone once more. But for me it seemed like u ppl didnt get it.
I understand Stray Dogs standpoint, it's always good to take a stand against 'carry' mercs being fielded as a surprise.
On the other hand, I'm fairly confident AAAA can beat Stray Dogs with their current roster.
So keeping this unsolved actually might ruin the season outcome..
AAAA, stop being dicks.. you don't want Stray Dogs in the finals due to your incompetence to reschedule a replay..
I can tell you dugi, vallan haamu entered the server, opposite team started to feel mentally unstable(due to obvious reasons), after a few minutes of psychological warfare against SD vallan haamu managed to create epic shitstorm and make them leave the server. What we are having here are effects of a post-totalzconedom.
I can resume it on spanish for you, becouse you will don't undestand my english.
Pues teníamos partido un domingo, me dijo Isok que iban a ser 6, entramos a las 8 al server y a las 9 menos 15 solo habia entrado Isok. Gobot hizo rage, queria un forfeit para ellos pero lo aplace para el siguiente Domingo.
A condicion hablada don Danny, que si no eran 6 perdian 4-0, el me dijo que sí.
El siguiente domingo eran 4, y querian de merc a un sprogga y a nose quien, como la ultima ensl nos ganaron la final por pillar de merc a marko y otro, dijimos que si quieren mercs que sean de 2div.
Pues dimos ready, eran 5 (a las 9 menos 10) otra vez 45 minutos esperando con mi equipo cabreado en el ts3 de esperar, 10 segundos para terminar el ready y ganar el partido, acepto al referee, que era lump para que jugara con ellos. Quito el ready, lo ponemos, otros 8 minutos esperando, y empezamos.
Gobot cabreado porque teniamos otro partido en 30 minutos se piro , no queria jugar contra estos payasos con mercs. Entonces segun salio hicimos f4, que fue nada mas empezar ronda, y ellos en vez de dejarnos hacer replay con otros querian el 1-0 para ellos. Pues dije, no acepto que jugueis con mas mercs, y terminamos 1-3.
Comments
dogo
27 October 2010, 21:37
IsoK | Anonym Anti Anti A.
31 October 2010, 21:52
gobot | Stray Dogs
31 October 2010, 22:28
dogo
31 October 2010, 22:34
IsoK | Anonym Anti Anti A.
31 October 2010, 22:48
dogo
1 November 2010, 04:02
IsoK | Anonym Anti Anti A.
dogo if your team is at the server before random time it is not my fault you can´t blame me or my team from that. And evening when you asked are we ready I said to you right away that lets play next week we have only 3 online and if we can´t field team then you can have your forfeit win. So actually YOU wasted my time 50min to settle this.
1 November 2010, 14:50
gobot | Stray Dogs
Isok it was just a bit annyoing, beeing there at 21:00 CET and non of your team showing. Was a bit of time waste, but it´s settled now. Just make sure u tell ur opponent in time that u cant field six ( maybe u did, but it didnt get through to me until it was 10 to 22:00.)
1 November 2010, 15:26
IsoK | Anonym Anti Anti A.
31 October 10 22:00
I´m sure it was, but topic says 22:00 so I don´t understant the blame game if you got info 10 to 22:00.
And if YOUR team have decided that random time is 21:00 I sure won´t hesitate to let you guys wait 1h for me trying to get 6 in sted of ff win.
And again. When dogo contacted me I told him we are 3 and asked him can we play next week. I´m sure dogo can confirm this.
1 November 2010, 21:03
IsoK | Anonym Anti Anti A.
1 November 2010, 21:05
gobot | Stray Dogs
And how can u even think of ppl playing at a time of 22:00 on sundays? I mean starting a match that probably will take on until 24:00. jesus !
well what do u mean by my team decides? if it says 21:00 is match time, it is 21:00 match time, not 22:00 ffs.
1 November 2010, 21:47
dogo
1 November 2010, 22:35
jiriki | old people
This match shows 22:00, which is 21CEST (remember summer time).
1 November 2010, 23:21
gobot | Stray Dogs
2 November 2010, 01:01
Elvisq | Team Four
Last saturday/sunday night the time switched for CET (GMT+1)
2 November 2010, 09:36
dogo
See you ;) and get 6 please.
7 November 2010, 12:03
phone | Snoofed
7 November 2010, 12:34
IsoK | Anonym Anti Anti A.
7 November 2010, 19:06
Prefix | Anonym Anti Anti A.
7 November 2010, 19:11
gobot | Stray Dogs
If u want to play matches tell ur opponent in time that u dont have 6 ( last week) and dont make them wait. And make sure u got atleast 6 (without merc!) for the 2nd time.
I fully admit beeing a fucking asshole right here. But I dont accept playing a postponed game and then not beeing able to play the "real" game afterwards. (now at 20:00 cet)
7 November 2010, 19:15
dogo
6 SD players join the server from 20:00 to 20:45. Only Isok fom AAAA joined the server, we acept postpone a bit pissed of.
Sunday 7: time of play 18;00, 6 sd join server.
18:45 AAAA only have 4-5 players, we refused use 1div mercs.
We type ready, 10 seconds before they lose forfeit i type unready and acept lump(our referee) to merc with they.
Ready, ready, gobot crash we f4.
They wanted 1-0 for them, then i rage and dont acept more mercs for next rounds. It is all. Thx for waste our time and pissed off us.
Danny and lump agree with we won 3-1
7 November 2010, 19:18
Prefix | Anonym Anti Anti A.
7 November 2010, 19:19
IsoK | Anonym Anti Anti A.
7 November 2010, 19:20
dogo
7 November 2010, 19:24
vallanhaamu | Anonym Anti Anti A.
7 November 2010, 19:26
Prefix | Anonym Anti Anti A.
You wanted to get teh forfeit from the start, without even playing the rounds and with your buddy lump you got it.
7 November 2010, 19:26
Voodo | Two Team Squad
we were willing to replay the first round, where gobot crashed (?), and you claimed he was raging about mercs
right after this, i lost internet connection, when i came back, your team were gone (this was about 3-4 minutes, max)
rules says, that you can only win the match with forfeit, if you with the first 2 rounds with forfeit, which you clearly didnt. even if we accept that you won the first round with forfeit (which we were willing to replay), there couldn't be enough time for the 2nd 10 minutes to pass (by the time i came back), so here is the billion dollar question, why the fuck did you recive your forfeit ?
(also, we are more than willing to play this fuckin match)
7 November 2010, 19:27
gobot | Stray Dogs
And as dogo said, we didnt want to have any bad surprises with mercs once more.
and I think dogo´s post above , summarizes it pretty good, and the reason I didnt see a point in playing.
7 November 2010, 19:29
pSyk | NewStyleD Return
7 November 2010, 19:38
Voodo | Two Team Squad
7 November 2010, 19:40
IsoK | Anonym Anti Anti A.
IsoK: we don´t have 6 can we play next week?
And then dogo says something that gobot wants to take ff win.
I join the server and after 50min they agree to post pone. (there was no ref or anything but just at the end and FF clock was never even started)
Sunday 7: sd had players at server as well as AAAA. sd said last week we can have 1 merc, but sd suddently says our merc is too good and sd starts to run ff clock. we try to get our 6, but are forced to take lump becouse time runs out. gobot don´t want lump to merc and rage quits. We are ready to replay the round(joined again marines) sd quits the server and lump informs us that sd don´t allow mercs anymore and that score will be 1-3 to sd. Were did our 10mins go to get our last to second round?
7 November 2010, 19:47
dogo
7 November 2010, 19:53
Prefix | Anonym Anti Anti A.
7 November 2010, 19:53
Voodo | Two Team Squad
7 November 2010, 19:54
IsoK | Anonym Anti Anti A.
7 November 2010, 20:04
gobot | Stray Dogs
7 November 2010, 20:09
lump
I said he would have been able to play, just not win the division as it's too late.
7 November 2010, 20:26
IsoK | Anonym Anti Anti A.
7 November 2010, 21:50
lump
i asked them to give you 1 round.
8 November 2010, 04:10
Arj | Ant
AND
stop being dicks and replay this match..
On a rules note.. as I understand it AAAA won the first round and the last 3 could be replayed.. since that would be silly.. try and replay the whole thing..
8 November 2010, 09:31
Voodo | Two Team Squad
8 November 2010, 09:39
lump
5+9 = 14
14 > 10
@arj
No, they didn't win the first round because SD never properly accepted the mercs. Letting AAAA have that round was a fair play compromise.
8 November 2010, 13:04
Voodo | Two Team Squad
8 November 2010, 13:10
dogo
I MEAN PROFESSORS, was my fail. Sorry.
8 November 2010, 14:22
dogo
8 November 2010, 14:24
dogo
8 November 2010, 14:24
lump
@dogo, marko had been playing with us in PCWs from our first week as a clan.
8 November 2010, 14:26
dogo
8 November 2010, 14:43
Voodo | Two Team Squad
we wanted to replay, zakj was only trolling u
8 November 2010, 14:52
EisTeeAT
IS HE IN UR ROSTER? .. NO so he is not in ur team DONE ! . get a team that can field 6 ppl and everything is ok !
8 November 2010, 14:55
Strife | 250 de ping
AAAA isnt going to dispute the final dogo
Just replay against them with out any mercs
its better to loose like that, than to win by forfeit
and its much better to actually win by playing :D
8 November 2010, 14:58
dogo
8 November 2010, 15:06
Strife | 250 de ping
8 November 2010, 15:12
Strife | 250 de ping
8 November 2010, 15:13
d-
8 November 2010, 15:23
IsoK | Anonym Anti Anti A.
And you said sheep can play at the match even if he joins our team, but now you say he could have. Witch one is it?
@dogo do not cry about div1 mercs you didn´t accept lump as a merc for us and he is far from div1. That only proofs you never even intended to play if you had any excuse.
8 November 2010, 15:39
IsoK | Anonym Anti Anti A.
8 November 2010, 15:41
lump
But without joining the team, they have to agree to let him merc.
@Isok, well they raged when we started because the clan wasn't happy with the merc situation (me). They said ready first remember, that's how the clock was counting down.
8 November 2010, 15:59
lump
8 November 2010, 15:59
gobot | Stray Dogs
Let´see how the situation looks at the end of the season. Maybe there is time to replay this game, maybe there is not. If it is and u can finally field 6 of your OWN team 100%. We can try to replay if it´s still possible.
Well whining about the merc stuff: Maybe ppl should answer to the question " who is that merc" instead of "ur mum". Some ppl of AAA didnt get how "serious" the situation, was I think.
Oh and a merc can really change a lot I think. We are all pretty inactive, so a merc doesnt spoil the teamplay too much. And even in div2 it shouldnt be too hard finding some1 decent to improve the roster.
8 November 2010, 18:25
Prefix | Anonym Anti Anti A.
8 November 2010, 18:35
Prefix | Anonym Anti Anti A.
8 November 2010, 18:38
gobot | Stray Dogs
and what u just wrote at last is just bullshit man. Of course we had 6 -.-
There even was the talk about postponing the match again. But okay, from your side it more sounded like: postpone -> SD loses forfeit because we cant play now. (atleast that is what I recognized)
8 November 2010, 21:41
vallanhaamu | Anonym Anti Anti A.
we wanted to replay, zakj was only trolling u[/quote]
SUCCESS
9 November 2010, 12:47
IsoK | Anonym Anti Anti A.
9 November 2010, 14:21
IsoK | Anonym Anti Anti A.
9 November 2010, 14:23
IsoK | Anonym Anti Anti A.
9 November 2010, 14:46
bHack
You have to solve this problem in a proper way until that.
9 November 2010, 14:56
gobot | Stray Dogs
So if we cant field 6 ( in case of the matches at one day, as I said multiple times before) we have to postpone once more. But for me it seemed like u ppl didnt get it.
9 November 2010, 18:04
Arj | Ant
On the other hand, I'm fairly confident AAAA can beat Stray Dogs with their current roster.
So keeping this unsolved actually might ruin the season outcome..
AAAA, stop being dicks.. you don't want Stray Dogs in the finals due to your incompetence to reschedule a replay..
12 November 2010, 09:09
Voodo | Two Team Squad
12 November 2010, 12:41
Vision | Quaxy
12 November 2010, 12:49
dugi
12 November 2010, 13:35
vallanhaamu | Anonym Anti Anti A.
12 November 2010, 13:43
dogo
Pues teníamos partido un domingo, me dijo Isok que iban a ser 6, entramos a las 8 al server y a las 9 menos 15 solo habia entrado Isok. Gobot hizo rage, queria un forfeit para ellos pero lo aplace para el siguiente Domingo.
A condicion hablada don Danny, que si no eran 6 perdian 4-0, el me dijo que sí.
El siguiente domingo eran 4, y querian de merc a un sprogga y a nose quien, como la ultima ensl nos ganaron la final por pillar de merc a marko y otro, dijimos que si quieren mercs que sean de 2div.
Pues dimos ready, eran 5 (a las 9 menos 10) otra vez 45 minutos esperando con mi equipo cabreado en el ts3 de esperar, 10 segundos para terminar el ready y ganar el partido, acepto al referee, que era lump para que jugara con ellos. Quito el ready, lo ponemos, otros 8 minutos esperando, y empezamos.
Gobot cabreado porque teniamos otro partido en 30 minutos se piro , no queria jugar contra estos payasos con mercs. Entonces segun salio hicimos f4, que fue nada mas empezar ronda, y ellos en vez de dejarnos hacer replay con otros querian el 1-0 para ellos. Pues dije, no acepto que jugueis con mas mercs, y terminamos 1-3.
12 November 2010, 13:47
dugi
12 November 2010, 14:07
gobot | Stray Dogs
12 November 2010, 14:49
Prefix | Anonym Anti Anti A.
12 November 2010, 20:26
Voodo | Two Team Squad
13 November 2010, 10:09
gobot | Stray Dogs
U lost against teampoland because of aA.? There u can see why imba mercs can spoil the game pretty fast (even though aA wasnt a merc there? dunno)
13 November 2010, 14:58
rapsu | Quaxy
13 November 2010, 17:25
homik
13 November 2010, 18:59
blind | onFire
13 November 2010, 21:31
Voodo | Two Team Squad
13 November 2010, 22:02
Johs
21 November 2010, 14:24
Johs
21 November 2010, 14:24
homik
21 November 2010, 15:14
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