Talking with izO we agreed on:
19Oct(Sun/Mon) - 12PDT/14C/15E/21CEST/0600AUS
He will confirm below if i have the correct time.
Steam:
12:42 PM - izO: lets try
12:42 PM - izO: to play saturday or sunday
12:42 PM - Rising: whenever you guys can make the match we will try
12:42 PM - izO: maybe sunday ?
12:42 PM - Rising: Ya sure. I just need a day notice to get my team there
12:43 PM - Rising: Sunday works best
12:43 PM - izO: sunday 21CEST ?
12:44 PM - Rising: give me a sec, check our stuff
12:44 PM - izO: kk
12:44 PM - Rising: 19Oct(Sun/Mon) - 12PDT/14C/15E/21CEST/0600AUS
12:45 PM - Rising: I will post the time on NSL
manipulator, to copy the parts of the converstation that u needed is so retarded u *****, u turn it like u need it wa? ! i really hope you go to hell with your faggot style. bg @ Rising behaviers
i wanted it on NEXT sunday 26.10 ****** Rising ****** *** ***********
The hate is real on ENSL, cant we all get along and just have a huge gangb*ng with Pelargir on the bottom? Would love to stroke that sweet piece of *ss :)
and GJ Rising finding a fool (not wana call names but it begins with V...) that force my team to play with telling them it will be Forfeit if they dont play now
Not really izO, if you get any issue with this team or their players, you can talk to them via Steam or here but without using insults. You can also explain us or me the situation that made you so irritated, you know I'm often online on Steam if you need it.
What the? How do I get into this, i was asked to ref and cast the match, There is 15m waiting time by the rules, it was well over it, even allowed 2 mercs to get this played. I told semi, it's 2 mercs soon or they will have to forfeit. You could have still had the map replayed later on if OE wanted to do that, but at that situation at those delays at that time it would have to been forfeit. What's your problem, mate? Also OE weren't pushing for any forfeit, they wanted this played and stayed calm, as well, as your team did, everyone was cool, no one raised any questions or pushed for anything. Izo, you are only one being angry.
So i guess, Vindaloo and Rising also Force Forfeit for Godar, they didnt play yet (wait they are not div1, no extra points for over.extension and onFire... so maybe no... ?)
if they dont get forfeits we drop this s5, HF
this is a fkn 2 class System in NSL so fo fu DoA
Premiere leage = No dead lines = Flaming allowed
Vindaloo = No Right to lie about deadlines and to force other teams from same division...
Why are you talking about Vindaloo here? If any team cannot align 6 players and need to delay their matches, they're able to contact an admin to solve this kind of issue. Rising sent me a message on the website to explain me the situation but I'm still waiting for your own answer on Steam. Don't be so surprised if you're ignoring people that can potentially help you. There are deadlines, those can be delayed as long as teams take their time to discuss with an admin.
Claiming to quit the season if such events gonna happen is ridiculous. If you cannot talk to people quietly, we won't be able to help you, i'm still hoping that you can understand this. Cf your match page against el'pheer.
What the hell did i force you into? I was asked before the match to cast, it was written in the referee and caster schedule table, I signed up for casting, not refing, but was later asked to ref also, as there was no one else. The forfeit i am talking about is after not having enough players to play second map. You already lost 2 points on it and would have to stay and win some rounds to get any and with the help of mercs, Hyste and oF com Jackson you did, one.
Are you actually talking about how was the match scheduled at all? If yes, that is between you and rising, if anyone told me you didn't agree to this (there was no response since the last rising's post in here), I would look here, saw you didn't confirm and we could have talked this out. NO ONE has voiced any concerns about the match or it's schedule as a whole before or throughout the match. If you didn't want to play the whole match and wanted reschedule, why didn't you tell me or the admins or wrote it here on the match page? From my caster point of view all was scheduled and ready to go.
So when did exactly and to who did I say play or forfeit before the match?
Well I kinda understand Izo cause it's not the first time this kind of shit happens.
Having hard time scheduling a game -> discuss about it on steam -> HYPOCRIT team leader copy/paste steam chat on ENSL to force forfeit.
And in the end you get a forfeit plus a blame from admins. GG WP, and the only winner is the team who won the forfeit, where as the other team just want to play the fucking game.
The only message I got from izO after the fact (@3am) was an angry message wishing my kids get aids and a remove/block from steam. He also decided to message every team member of mine to let them know what he wishes on my kids and removed them as well.
I have talked with pela and explained everything. I misunderstood izO, simple as that. He needed to be more clear and as you see in my steam message I posted the exact time AND date I was thinking the match would be on. He decided to not read it or respond even though it was only seconds since we had talked. I even said I would post this steam message on NSL.
No conspiracy, no hypocrisy, no malice, just a misunderstanding. I apologize for the error and the drama it caused.
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1 October 2014, 21:39
RisingSun
1 October 2014, 22:34
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16 October 2014, 12:53
Fiskbit | Over.Extension
16 October 2014, 19:28
RisingSun
18 Oct (Sat) - 1200PDT/1400C/1500E/2100CEST/(Sun)0600AUS
16 October 2014, 20:09
RisingSun
19Oct(Sun/Mon) - 12PDT/14C/15E/21CEST/0600AUS
He will confirm below if i have the correct time.
Steam:
12:42 PM - izO: lets try
12:42 PM - izO: to play saturday or sunday
12:42 PM - Rising: whenever you guys can make the match we will try
12:42 PM - izO: maybe sunday ?
12:42 PM - Rising: Ya sure. I just need a day notice to get my team there
12:43 PM - Rising: Sunday works best
12:43 PM - izO: sunday 21CEST ?
12:44 PM - Rising: give me a sec, check our stuff
12:44 PM - izO: kk
12:44 PM - Rising: 19Oct(Sun/Mon) - 12PDT/14C/15E/21CEST/0600AUS
12:45 PM - Rising: I will post the time on NSL
18 October 2014, 19:46
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i wanted it on NEXT sunday 26.10 ****** Rising ****** *** ***********
20 October 2014, 08:56
Pelargir | We're grumpy
20 October 2014, 10:51
dePARA | Heidis Bergziegen
Thats interisting, cause there are DEADLINES you know.
"The MATCH DEADLINE for Week 3s is October 21st."
20 October 2014, 11:04
ryssk | Ram Ranch
20 October 2014, 11:58
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20 October 2014, 12:58
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1moment later Zefram write me in steamfriends and say this Over.ext guy want Forfeit
LOL ..................................... MAKE UR OWN MIND
20 October 2014, 13:01
Pelargir | We're grumpy
20 October 2014, 13:11
Cr4zy | SpookerZ
20 October 2014, 15:02
ryssk | Ram Ranch
20 October 2014, 15:19
Vindaloo
20 October 2014, 15:23
Daddy
20 October 2014, 18:06
dePARA | Heidis Bergziegen
20 October 2014, 19:23
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this not ur buisness! and ask admins they will tell you that deadlines are Expandable
20 October 2014, 23:03
Cr4zy | SpookerZ
20 October 2014, 23:05
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20 October 2014, 23:08
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if they dont get forfeits we drop this s5, HF
this is a fkn 2 class System in NSL so fo fu DoA
Premiere leage = No dead lines = Flaming allowed
Vindaloo = No Right to lie about deadlines and to force other teams from same division...
20 October 2014, 23:12
PASCOW
we will see us all again in "Speedrunners"
best game
20 October 2014, 23:15
Cr4zy | SpookerZ
20 October 2014, 23:15
Pelargir | We're grumpy
Claiming to quit the season if such events gonna happen is ridiculous. If you cannot talk to people quietly, we won't be able to help you, i'm still hoping that you can understand this. Cf your match page against el'pheer.
21 October 2014, 01:11
Vindaloo
Are you actually talking about how was the match scheduled at all? If yes, that is between you and rising, if anyone told me you didn't agree to this (there was no response since the last rising's post in here), I would look here, saw you didn't confirm and we could have talked this out. NO ONE has voiced any concerns about the match or it's schedule as a whole before or throughout the match. If you didn't want to play the whole match and wanted reschedule, why didn't you tell me or the admins or wrote it here on the match page? From my caster point of view all was scheduled and ready to go.
So when did exactly and to who did I say play or forfeit before the match?
21 October 2014, 15:50
Tinki | We're grumpy
Having hard time scheduling a game -> discuss about it on steam -> HYPOCRIT team leader copy/paste steam chat on ENSL to force forfeit.
And in the end you get a forfeit plus a blame from admins. GG WP, and the only winner is the team who won the forfeit, where as the other team just want to play the fucking game.
21 October 2014, 15:53
RisingSun
The only message I got from izO after the fact (@3am) was an angry message wishing my kids get aids and a remove/block from steam. He also decided to message every team member of mine to let them know what he wishes on my kids and removed them as well.
I have talked with pela and explained everything. I misunderstood izO, simple as that. He needed to be more clear and as you see in my steam message I posted the exact time AND date I was thinking the match would be on. He decided to not read it or respond even though it was only seconds since we had talked. I even said I would post this steam message on NSL.
No conspiracy, no hypocrisy, no malice, just a misunderstanding. I apologize for the error and the drama it caused.
21 October 2014, 16:16
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