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22 January 2015 - 07:41 EST
#31
Zefram says
We don't know the extent of Trademark's use of cheat programs and whether they were regulated to pugs, scrims, and pubs or if they were used in actual matches. Neither is ok.

What we do know is Trademark has multiple VAC bans across multiple steam accounts (at least 2 that I'm aware of).

We also know that one of his teammates sent me a screenshot of a player using chams (Trademark's admitted cheat) over a month ago. While admittedly the screenshot was a stock photo from a defunct hack, it points to an awareness that this sort of behavior was happening either within the team or at least within the community. That or it's just HIGHLY coincidental that he shows me that screenshot and a month later a teammate gets VAC banned and admits to using that very cheat or one similar to it.

Although Trademark and I have butted heads in the past, I still want to treat him fairly and consistently with what has been done in the past and with personal feelings aside. This situation warrants the same sanctions levied against Evilbot when he was found cheating. Trademark will be banned from participation in the next season of the NSL and allowed to return under the stipulation that he streams all his matches.

The NSL values and desires fair play. We will do everything possible to protect that so that everyone who participates can enjoy the game. If you're someone who cheats or are helping others to cheat, you're not a "good guy". You're a scumbag and you weaken our community.


Wow, multiple Vac bans and still cheating?

Just this statement from TM's first post "it was only in the last 2 weeks that the person who gave to me told how to use without getting vacced i tried it in 2 pugs and a pub and didnt think it was that great in the end i got vacced"

Sorry, cant see any truth in that post, except that you got vac banned!

Edit: Forgot to add one more thing... LET THE WITCH HUNT BEGIN!


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#32
You should release videos like Evilbot to clear your name.
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#33
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#35
"Making false statements is very ludicrous and doesn't help the situation"

What situation? Its always amazing that spotted cheaters trying to reject the blame.
It was the fault of the "good guy" for sure that he gave you the wrong files.

Handle it like the thread title: R.I.P. and bye bye.
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#36
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You should release videos like Evilbot to clear your name.

The videos recorded by Evilbot to claim his inocence were even more incriminating. xD
Watch them, they're definitely worth the laughts
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#37
Trademark says
Mendasp says
You should release videos like Evilbot to clear your name.




I have streamed scrims and pugs in the past they are on my twitch


Mendasp was referring to some other private joke for those who paid attention to the thread about EvilBot and his vain attempts to prove he wasn't cheating. Which have been very hilarious for most people from the community. If you can provide some, it'd be even funnier.

This apart, I will never understand how come people get the "idea" to try out any kind of cheats. Sorry Trade but I quote: "1. i was told "a safe way" to try them about 2 weeks ago tried it in 2 pugs and a pub no matches or anything,why did i try to see if it made be better but tbh it didnt make me any better than what i was already at"

I understand this statement this way: It didn't help me to improve, otherwise, I'd have kept this cheat but it didn't anyway, doesn't really matter.

“It's a dangerous business, Frodo, going out your door. You step onto the road, and if you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to.”
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Nooooo, that's ignoraaant! Aheeeheeee SHAMONA

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#40
You are right, my posts are ignorant. Cause, i dont care about the reasons why you using hacks.



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#42
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The point of this thread was to let everyone know what was going on instead of running away like everyone else in this community who has gotten caught cheating or vacced in ns2. If you're going to risk cheating own up to it when you get caught instead of running away like everyone else


It's a good thing that you confessed, and didnt bring down your team with you like Evilbot did, he shamed Crazycats team quite alot.

But.. What's stopping us from trolling, and calling you a cheater? I mean... Karma is a bitch, you got caught, Be prepared for the flame
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#44
(this is satire)
let yourself grow some balls and BAN perm or minimum 5 years

This is Dedicated to all NS2 comp players, its fine IF you Cheat if you really get caught it doesnt matter, make 1 season Break and come back as famous Streamer with non visual hacks and fool them all!

Here is how you do it and how its known since many years for streaming Cheaters:

#1 You need a 2nd PC
#2 You need a Hack Sync Software
#3 Play on your HACK pc but stream from your 2nd PC without someone to see your Hacks
(Admins/Players that have expirience in HL or Quake know about it since long time, this methode is 10 years old)
Have fun and GG NS2


The Only proof way is if this player Records his gameplay by a Real camera behind+beside him and even there u can trick arround if you are not too dumb.


i play competetive games for 18 years and i worked like 6 years for a privat Anti-Cheat/Cheat-Detection Bot, Because our game was leak a big player base we was invent the "2nd Chance Program" so everybody that was Cheatless since 5 years was able to come back and play...
1 year later most of them was banned again........ so How to change the attitude and behavier of a Human? how to change a Human? after 1 season or 5 years? you will never manage to do that ;P because they are menthal weak! CHEATERS GONNA CHEAT, HATERS GONNA HATE.

BACK to the REAL MEANING of this TOPIC = R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2 R.I.P NS2
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#45
Trademark you're one of the biggest hypocrites alive. You spent the past few days giving it to nezz and now when you're caught doing the exact same thing you can't take the flame? Also we need to note that nezz has never been vacced in NS2 either.

Geezus.
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#46
riptrade

edit:

izO says
(this is satire)
let yourself grow some balls and BAN perm or minimum 5 years

This is Dedicated to all NS2 comp players, its fine IF you Cheat if you really get caught it doesnt matter, make 1 season Break and come back as famous Streamer with non visual hacks and fool them all!

Here is how you do it and how its known since many years for streaming Cheaters:

#1 You need a 2nd PC
#2 You need a Hack Sync Software
#3 Play on your HACK pc but stream from your 2nd PC without someone to see your Hacks
(Admins/Players that have expirience in HL or Quake know about it since long time, this methode is 10 years old)
Have fun and GG NS2


The Only proof way is if this player Records his gameplay by a Real camera behind+beside him and even there u can trick arround if you are not too dumb.


i play competetive games for 18 years and i worked like 6 years for a privat Anti-Cheat/Cheat-Detection Bot, Because our game was leak a big player base we was invent the "2nd Chance Program" so everybody that was Cheatless since 5 years was able to come back and play...
1 year later most of them was banned again........ so How to change the attitude and behavier of a Human? how to change a Human? after 1 season or 5 years? you will never manage to do that ;P because they are menthal weak! CHEATERS GONNA CHEAT, HATERS GONNA HATE.

BACK to the REAL MEANING of this TOPIC = .....


And you and carnage call me a cheater? wtf is a hack sync ROFL
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#47
REST IN PEPPERINOS LOL
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Guys...

I'm sorry.

For everyone involved, my past teams etc.. Sry Spring bro.

I cheated and i'm still cheating, i'm using a ns2+ option that i found out, it give me the ability to see marines through the arms of my fade while i swipe down power nodes.

It's incredibly OP, i can see the blood of a skulk while i rifle bash him.

May you pardon me.

The coder is from spain btw.
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#49
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Guys...

I'm sorry.

For everyone involved, my past teams etc.. Sry Spring bro.

I cheated and i'm still cheating, i'm using a ns2+ option that i found out, it give me the ability to see marines through the arms of my fade while i swipe down power nodes.

It's incredibly OP, i can see the blood of a skulk while i rifle bash him.

May you pardon me.

The coder is from spain btw.


I witness, Carnage and Izo already got me :(
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#50
Zefram says
If you're someone who cheats or are helping others to cheat, you're not a "good guy". You're a scumbag and you weaken our community.

Same thing goes to people that advocated and allowed for the removal of viewmodels.
Zefram says
The NSL values and desires fair play. We will do everything possible to protect that so that everyone who participates can enjoy the game.

Hahaha, oh the irony.
http://www.youtube.com/user/swalken/videos
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#51
Ryssk says
Trademark says
The point of this thread was to let everyone know what was going on instead of running away like everyone else in this community who has gotten caught cheating or vacced in ns2. If you're going to risk cheating own up to it when you get caught instead of running away like everyone else


It's a good thing that you confessed, and didnt bring down your team with you like Evilbot did, he shamed Crazycats team quite alot.

But.. What's stopping us from trolling, and calling you a cheater? I mean... Karma is a bitch, you got caught, Be prepared for the flame



Nothing at all but be more taste full abut your trolls para is pretty bad at it
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#52
izO says
This is Dedicated to all NS2 comp players, its fine IF you Cheat if you really get caught it doesnt matter, make 1 season Break and come back as famous Streamer with non visual hacks and fool them all!

Here is how you do it and how its known since many years for streaming Cheaters:

#1 You need a 2nd PC
#2 You need a Hack Sync Software
#3 Play on your HACK pc but stream from your 2nd PC without someone to see your Hacks
(Admins/Players that have expirience in HL or Quake know about it since long time, this methode is 10 years)
Have fun and GG NS2


Thanks, this is very relevant. Maybe you should also write down a guide about: "how to cheat on NS2". Lots of people would find it very interesting and helpful.

EDIT: I haven't noticed that you edited your message, now it's even more valuable.
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#53
Trademark says
The point of this thread was to let everyone know what was going on instead of running away like everyone else in this community who has gotten caught cheating or vacced in ns2. If you're going to risk cheating own up to it when you get caught instead of running away like everyone else

I literally sat down i. Mumble with anyone who wanted to talk about it or had questions. Talked to 30+ people


Sadly Trade, unless you name who else is using the cheats, and who gave them to you- despite whatever intentions you had for this thread you have not only tarnished your own name but also that of anyone you play with and especially your teammates.

You cannot say "oh by the way I know of at least two others who are cheating as well but I won't give them up" and expect anything less than massive amounts of suspicion to be put upon anyone you played with.

At least that's how I feel. This is pretty disappointing.
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#54
Pelargir says
izO says
This is Dedicated to all NS2 comp players, its fine IF you Cheat if you really get caught it doesnt matter, make 1 season Break and come back as famous Streamer with non visual hacks and fool them all!

Here is how you do it and how its known since many years for streaming Cheaters:

#1 You need a 2nd PC
#2 You need a Hack Sync Software
#3 Play on your HACK pc but stream from your 2nd PC without someone to see your Hacks
(Admins/Players that have expirience in HL or Quake know about it since long time, this methode is 10 years)
Have fun and GG NS2


Thanks, this is very relevant. Maybe you should also write down a guide about: "how to cheat on NS2". Lots of people would find it very interesting and helpful.

EDIT: I haven't noticed that you edited your message, now it's even more valuable.




Sure Pelagir the only way You can detect cheaters is if a cheater Shows the hack for you on a stream, my post is about to tell the NS2 Admins & community that its BS to unban them, they gave up NS2 long time ago thats why they started cheating and a simple Stream will most likely never work like a Anti-cheat tool, You want a Guide ? go Youtube
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RIP.

GGNORE.
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#56
herakles says
Guys...

I'm sorry.

For everyone involved, my past teams etc.. Sry Spring bro.

I cheated and i'm still cheating, i'm using a ns2+ option that i found out, it give me the ability to see marines through the arms of my fade while i swipe down power nodes.

It's incredibly OP, i can see the blood of a skulk while i rifle bash him.




Also uses Cloaking and sits in empty RT smoke.

Confirmed hacker.

Pls Ban.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P5qbcRAXVk
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free ma homie trade
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#58
w00t says
Trademark you're one of the biggest hypocrites alive. You spent the past few days giving it to nezz and now when you're caught doing the exact same thing you can't take the flame? Also we need to note that nezz has never been vacced in NS2 either.

Geezus.

w00t says
Trademark you're one of the biggest hypocrites alive. You spent the past few days giving it to nezz and now when you're caught doing the exact same thing you can't take the flame? Also we need to note that nezz has never been vacced in NS2 either.

Geezus.




not even worth a response because its obvious you can't read
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#59
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Trademark says
The point of this thread was to let everyone know what was going on instead of running away like everyone else in this community who has gotten caught cheating or vacced in ns2. If you're going to risk cheating own up to it when you get caught instead of running away like everyone else

I literally sat down i. Mumble with anyone who wanted to talk about it or had questions. Talked to 30+ people


Sadly Trade, unless you name who else is using the cheats, and who gave them to you- despite whatever intentions you had for this thread you have not only tarnished your own name but also that of anyone you play with and especially your teammates.

You cannot say "oh by the way I know of at least two others who are cheating as well but I won't give them up" and expect anything less than massive amounts of suspicion to be put upon anyone you played with.

At least that's how I feel. This is pretty disappointing.



Dont want to go into detail about this like i said to the 30
+ people who have talked to me about it wasn't anyone i ever played with on a team, But think what you must.
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I am done commenting on this thread
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