I couldn't find the right forums for it (maybe a complaints section).

http://www.ensl.org/gathers/9242

Aliens on the first round called gg and tols us that they have a PCW.

then they left.

I wonder what the admins reaction is gonna be like..

Don't be a bidge and don't cry about it, shit happens. People shouldn't be banned from gathers for the smallest reasons

i played like 50-100 gathers without leaving a single one and yes we left after first round for a good reason. dont make a drama.

Things are well summed up.

hahahah

and that, ladies and gentlemen is the main reason why I don't play gathers anymore and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in this. there are rules but they're not being enforced because there aren't many people left playing ns2 anyway.

I wonder why..

I'm not here to argue, I'm here to make a complaint to the admins. I remember getting punished because I did not want to play on a US server. If I'm getting banned for that (which I'm perfectly fine with) what about these guys?

If you have a pcw in half an hour, don't sign up for the fucking gather. It's disrespectful to every other player. I hope you can get your head around that. I really do.

If these guys don't get any form of punishment, I'm completely done with ensl.

And here's the typical message from one of the few guys who play gathers (it's sarcasm).

I'm not gather admin and do not pretend to be part of it, I'm not even playing gathers anymore. Nevertheless, you've been banned for reasons, the simple fact of denying a server entirely proves that you do not respect in any way your opponents and your mates, in other words, those players who signed up for the gather. For what reason? Due to some ping issues? Which is ridiculous.

These guys, from what I did understand, which is, I admit only a little, signed up and tried to play without being able of playing the whole game, meaning they've probably been able to play the first round or so, right? No one has complained, you apart but your opinion isn't enough to be considered to get these players banned. Not that your opinion matters not, but requesting massive bans requires some approval from the crowd, or at least, those who have been witnesses of these games. Of course, acting in this way should be punished but the game is already dying and we have to be lenient about gathers, as we are for the regular rules related to the seasons.

These players, will be warned and their names will be put aside, in case of recidivism. But in our current situation, we're not going to ban plenty of people for not being able to play 2 hours in a row. They could have expected to play less, most of the gathers I used to play do not take longer than an hour.

To sum up, they won't be punished right away, we'll keep their names though and as usual, if people tend to do so once more, they'll be punished. But clemency must prevail mainly caused by the falling number of competitive players and the few remaining gathers still running and all that goes along.

However, I'd like to remember that any kind of blackmail, not sure it's worthless to call it like that is definitely pointless. People are all equal and nobody gets advantages over others. I do hope it brightened your light.

I wasn't blackmailing actually. I was just stating a fact. This tiny community won't lose anything if I use it or not. I don't care, you don't care either. It's alright. I'm not blackmailing or threatening anybody though.

Anyways, decisions have been made for both parties then. Since I started playing NS2, ENSL have always been on my bookmark bar. It's not anymore.

Thanks for taking the time to write a proper reply Pelargir.

B E W A R E : THE ENSL IS NOT BOOKMARKED ANYMORE

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Seriously though, don't make so much drama out of it. Think about it like this: If more and more people get banned from gathers, those will stop playing gathers too. Less players means less gathers. Which is bad, cause u liek play gatha it seems. Why do people always want to start their crusades against others deserving bans.... just start loving each other and the nsl will be a better place.

ALSO - Your probably wouldn't even have played the one round you could play if those people hadn't signed up. Isn't one round better than none?

i-liek-turtals says

I couldn't find the right forums for it (maybe a complaints section).

http://www.ensl.org/gathers/9242

Aliens on the first round called gg and tols us that they have a PCW.

then they left.

I wonder what the admins reaction is gonna be like..

Guys plz listen to this prem player, otherwise we will loose atleast a 10 players fanbase... cause this guy is just too freaking awesome! I mean, he fills 1 slot in the gather, and bringing along 11 more just because of his name.. Pelargir you are underestamating the power of ENSL forum, because everybody is concerned of it.. i mean... even when im drunk i feel really passionate about ensl.. it's like whiping your ass without any toilet paper, and you realise that you have to go and buy some... with shit in your pants.. trust me.. unpleasent feeling! Like this thread... Ryssk... over... and freaking out! 0 content what so ever.. like this thread

Just give them 24hour ban and get over with it.

OP is right, this behavior warrants a small scale ban period to teach a lesson. If similar behavior persists, make longer bans.

+1 swalk, swalk hero admin, someone give swalk his admin back.

RIP_NS2 says

+1 swalk, swalk hero admin, someone give swalk his admin back.

No

I just want to mention that some people here are like real life necromancers, reanimating corpses of old threads like there is no tomorrow.

necro? this thread is just a month old and nothing else really happened here during the last month or even the last 6 months.

This behavior warrants a small punishment, not sure why Pelargir is holding his hand over these players. That is questionable behavior from Pelargir I would say. 24 hour bans are really no big deal, it's a lesson designed to teach you not to do that shit again.

And this is why swalk should never be in charge of anything,

ever

Thanks, Zefram.

schu says

And this is why swalk should never be in charge of anything,

ever

Stupidest comment so far in this thread.
You're saying that I should not be in charge because I go in favor of upholding rules.

These people left halfway through a gather THEY committed to by signing up, like everyone else in the gather. That is a direct violation of the gather rules and should not go without a minor gather ban. Letting this behavior "slide" is more hurtful to the gathers than banning these guys for 24 hours and giving some sense of justice for the remaining people who got half their gather ruined.

And let me tell you one more thing, I don't want to be in charge of this shit. All the pieces have been dropped on the floor and I am not picking them up, but hopefully someone else will.

Typical BADmin. You should open your eyes and take in reality first before you start passing judgement on people, You are the epitome of power hungry. You look into every minor flaw and treat it as if this community has thousands of players. You also deem your opinion over everybody else's and act like you are god and everyone else is downright retarded. You are the dumbest fucking person I've ever met online and I hope you get what is coming to you. You don't give a rats ass about anyone but yourself.

Pass judgement on players in a gather because they left to do more important things? LOL go fuck yourself swalk

Can you try to keep quiet @Schu? Whatever the opinion of people are in regard of this situation, you are free to comment but try to remain peaceful. It worth for everyone. Thanks.

Otherwise, Schu's view on the situation was the one that looked the most appropriate, hence the decision. It was also a short moment where there was no active Gather Admin to handle this. Now we got one, it shouldn't happen anymore.

Lol you got one.

The perfect one.

schu says

Typical BADmin.

fu
;)

schu says

Typical BADmin. You should open your eyes and take in reality first before you start passing judgement on people, You are the epitome of power hungry. You look into every minor flaw and treat it as if this community has thousands of players. You also deem your opinion over everybody else's and act like you are god and everyone else is downright retarded. You are the dumbest fucking person I've ever met online and I hope you get what is coming to you. You don't give a rats ass about anyone but yourself.

Pass judgement on players in a gather because they left to do more important things? LOL go fuck yourself swalk

Power hungry? I simply started this league for because I've enjoyed ns2 and played with my team duplex since the very early stages of the game, I was dissatisfied with how the official pre-release events had been held and I wanted to make the best place for teams to play. I announced the league all by myself after getting permission from jiriki, thankfully others also wished to help out and a team was quickly assembled. I gave away my position here the moment I wasn't committed 100%, in hopes that someone else who had motivation would pick it up and my suggestion was Zefram.
When I see that things are not up to the expectations that I set for myself when I was in the situation, I have complained yes. Although I probably shouldn't have, but others told me they have given up that struggle and some even quit playing because of it. Wanna hold that against me? Go ahead.
Yes, I deem my own opinions over others, unless I find enough merit in the counter arguments. Does that make me think that I am a "god" or above others? No. I am simply just vocal about my opinions and use my sense of logic and justice.

These players signed up to play a gather. They are bound by the gather rules to play an entire map or face a small ban. It's 24(the first time) fucking hours were talking about. NOTHING but a metaphorical slap on the wrists, saying: "don't do that again". Stop trying to make me someone I am not with your delusions. I for one care about those people who were left out to dry after getting half their gather ruined.

New Gather rules incoming. Stay tunned

Said gather rules have existed since 2009.
http://www.ensl.org/articles/464

Systems are never built to last forever swalk, accept it. Tweaks and adaptations have to come sooner or later.
ACCEPT COMMUNISM INTO YOUR LIFES, DEATH TO THE IMPERIALISTIC USA

Swalk did you miss the part where he said "new"?

swalk says

Said gather rules have existed since 2009.
http://www.ensl.org/articles/464

You've brought another good reason to update and improve them.

2009.

Seriously, people are not going to complain because rules will be enhanced, are they?

I don't like swalk like any sensible guy but he's right, why would anyone join gathers if everyone is allowed do whatever they want, while doing so wasting time of others. Let alone ban of 1 day is hardly the end of the world.

I'm amazed if you actually do write new rules, let alone uphold to them. Good luck regardless.

ps. Hi Pelargirl.

Iots says

I don't like swalk like any sensible guy but he's right, why would anyone join gathers if everyone is allowed do whatever they want, while doing so wasting time of others. Let alone ban of 1 day is hardly the end of the world.

I'm amazed if you actually do write new rules, let alone uphold to them. Good luck regardless.

ps. Hi Pelargirl.

I miss you.

Iots says

I don't like swalk like any sensible guy but he's right, why would anyone join gathers if everyone is allowed do whatever they want, while doing so wasting time of others. Let alone ban of 1 day is hardly the end of the world.

I'm amazed if you actually do write new rules, let alone uphold to them. Good luck regardless.

ps. Hi Pelargirl.

Like any sensible guy, you wouldn't know if you like me or not because you simply don't know me at all. All you may know about me are some of my viewpoints in regards to this game, those do not define me as a person. At least that would be your opinion if you were actually sensible. Get off your high-horse harassment boat. ;)

I would object if you allow people to leave gathers over pcws/officials, that would lower the quality of gathers even more than they are already and people would give even less of a shit about them.