Just had a gather - Bauer voted captain. Doesn't show up. Vote regather, picks are happening. Then this:

BearJankins4 minutes ago
fuck you guys

BearJankins4 minutes ago
ill force this regather

And he just resets the gather.

Why is he allowed to do this again?

EDIT:

THESE ARE THE CORE ISSUES:

1. Bauer violated the first two gather rules, I don't care about this that much because people go afk, fine whatever.

2. Bauer apparently typed "AFK" in the chat which apparently means he was immune to gather rule 2: Make sure you check if you are a captain and pick quickly when you are. This needs to be added as a new rule if it is always applicable.

3. We had 8 people vote to regather as we were all just sitting there waiting for picks to start. The new gather started and Bauer used his admin power to reset the gather. This is the main problem. It is bullshit that he is allowed to do this.

20 mins of resetting gather and people leaving all the time on the last vote picks this is getting really annoying...

The ever so powerful, Bauer, was sitting on the sidelines, forced to wait an hour to play, so he regathered. In the process, ensuring that he got to play while others got excluded.

Looks like a clear violation of Rule #9: "Dont be a dick."


EDIT: just REMEMBER that SIMPLE made him a moderator B)

http://www.ensl.org/topics/1572

"And BauerJankins which is a Gather Half-admin (moderator) btw famous for reseting full gathers so his friends can join the gather instead of other player that was quicker in (happend 2 weeks ago at saturday or sunday, please check gather history and ask all the players!"

the thing is, if you´re not starring at the gather page you are out in a second after regathering. the second point is, if the gather is full and he restarts it for the sake of a 'correct' captains vote, he shouldnt join it and force like this someone out.

He is an example of trash ppl who make gathers dead... He didn't show up and after regather he came back and reset it... really a joke...

maxamus you are right about gathers!

BearJankins30 minutes ago
I'M AFK FOR 10 MINUTES SO DONT VOTE ME THX

FU Bauer, stop quoting me. you are the worst "admin" ever. you are abusing like a 14yo girl. always trolling people. this is not acting like a admin WTF.

He forced this regather on purpose to get the godar people out to make their separated game. your not only annoying everyone with his dump shit, you are abusing, killing gathers to get things the way you want.

FFS Yaluzan or Sephy get it plz, this guy is such a troll and not a admin or half-admin or even a hobbit.

BearJankins says

the thing is, if you´re not starring at the gather page you are out in a second after regathering. the second point is, if the gather is full and he restarts it for the sake of a 'correct' captains vote, he shouldnt join it and force like this someone out.

BearJankins says

BearJankins30 minutes ago
I'M AFK FOR 10 MINUTES SO DONT VOTE ME THX

General Gather Rules

1. When you join a gather, show up and play until the end.
2. Make sure you check if you are a captain and pick quickly when you are.

If all you have to do is type "AFK" in the gather chat and you are immune to the first 2 rules then this needs to be added as a new rule to the list.

I'm serious, if typing one thing in the chat means you no longer have to care about the first two rules then that itself needs to be made the first rule.

to chime in here, parsnip voted baur captain after he said he would afk probably just to troll gather i guess.

honestly parsnitch i didnt expect this from you cMON M8

BearJankins says

BearJankins30 minutes ago
I'M AFK FOR 10 MINUTES SO DONT VOTE ME THX

You are a real joke as I said. Don't join when you are AFK.

Delete all your posts on "Lack of teamwork in gathers"... PPl may take them seriously...

phonee says

to chime in here, parsnip voted baur captain after he said he would afk probably just to troll gather i guess.

honestly parsnitch i didnt expect this from you cMON M8

I don't read the entire chat history to check for shouts of "AFK" after I join. If people need to start doing that then it needs to be added as a gather rule as I mentioned above.

Destroying the gather then stealing players one after one after he did Reset > regathers > players leaving because of his own privat gather and because of rage > stealing the server that gather players used that evening

Also in the past weeks he always joined the gather and when it started he is 5-10min AFK then leaving the gather or doing 2-3 picks and then he quits like he doesnt like the teams or trolling or just retarded?
i have no clue!

Last month we had some new american players in the gather it was a saturday, Unfortenly the Captains was uneven in skill so Bauer decided on his own to reset the gather it happend that some of the player couldnt rejoin and Bauer reseted the gather a couple of times because one of the more known players to Bauer told him to reset again so he would be able to join, it happend and these new players was not able to rejoin in time so they never was seen again in the gather they didnt understand whats going on and feel'd pretty much like they would be trolled

can confirm everything izo said, you should remove his mod

Gathers victims of their success.

Bauer, think about this : “Elite without being elitist”. You’re not happy being around average players (i.e. leaving every gather where there’s not an ex-prem div/div1 player), so please be/stay referee and only referee actual div 1. Thank you.

does not have todo with what bowy did because it's enough said 'bout this already but maybe these things should be implemented in gather:
* after regather have a 30 second block to join for everyone who was NOT in the gather that just got regathered so ppl have a chance to rejoin
* when regathering play a sound which indicates that a regather is happening cause when not captain ppl might not stare at the page all the time waiting for something to happen as they might be ingame joining the server or smthn like this
* have those eight (8) who were voting for the regather automatically join the new one

If your claim that Baeur has been abusing his power as Gather Moderator is true, then collect all the evidence that is readily available to you and present it to Yaluzan.

I'm sure that any other actions that Baeur is guilty of that both you and the community do not deem suitable of a moderator/admin will be taken in account in any discussion about his suspension or removal from the NSL staff if that ever comes from your appeal.

The means to file a complaint are there yet you are not taking advantage of them.

Posting this here will most likely just spiral into autism, gather the evidence and feelings of the community and do something with it.

In terms of the claim that Baeur has broken gather rules then i advise you to gather evidence once again and if it is sufficient then he should receive the appropriate ban time.

http://i.imgur.com/Wu1q27w.png

Haha benis.

SEE HOW FAR THE BIAS AND DEPRAVITY GOES

loMe
about a minute ago

i just saw schu got kicked out of a gather and i only care if it involves my friends

THIS IS THE ESTABLISHMENT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN

Absurdon says

* have those eight (8) who were voting for the regather automatically join the new one

All trolling and silliness aside, this is a great idea IMO.

*sarcasm*

To avoid controversy and taking quote out of context, I was watching Golden's stream and saw the gather got fucked up, so I popped on TS3 and resolved it.

OK I'm gonna respond to the people here that I can actually take seriously.

Kaydex, the "20 minute gather fuckup" was a troll reaction to my resetting the gather, combined with people leaving because they wanted to scrim instead of playing a gather. I didn't know that one reset would cause such a huge wave of trolling, and I'm sorry for that. It's my fault that I did not see the trollregather coming after I reset, and I realised that now.

Hadesia, I don't really know what you're trying to tell me, but if it's about me not playing gathers when there is a low skill level in them... I just queue up, (help seed the gather by doing so) and if I got something else to do and prefer not to play with 10 people I have never seen before I leave. If people are upset about this I'll stop doing it, but so far only Evisu came to me and complained about it and I've tried avoiding it since then.

Gooch, I only remember you from meeting you in a pub once and you randomly insulted me back then, so I don't even know....!==!=?=??!?1

Parsnip... SPEAKING AS A PLAYER - NOT AS A MOD the "don't vote me i'm afk" thingy usually ALWAYS works out. It's basically an unspoken rule that you should respect someone saying this. If you still vote him captain it can easily be considered trolling. And I felt really fucking trolled by you guys. It's obvious that many people in this community don't like me (luv u izo n deano). So it appeared to me like you saw an opportunity here to start trolling me.
Anyway... I can't tell if you're just trolling me or if you're legit upset about me being afk for 5 minutes after announcing it.

Now considering my reason to reset the gather... I came back and the first thing I saw on my screen was someone complaining that he got kicked out from the gather because of regather. I got really mad seeing this, not even because I couldn't get to play, but because 10 people in the gather were EITHER incapable of reading the spam from phone saying I SHOULDN'T BE VOTED CAPTAIN - OR because they were legit trolling... I honestly think the latter is true because there's a lot of hate directed towards me.
So yea, I didn't think straight, I saw people complaining about the *voted* regather so I made a mistake. I regret my choice. But I also saw quite some people that weren't originally in the gather. They "stole" other people's slots, which was a huge topic just a few weeks ago...
The thing is, you can never make the right decision. Keep that in mind, friends. I'm legit sorry for causing this huge chain of trolling that endured the entire night - I didn't see it coming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cOzjFN-X78

Exactly, ty for clarifying. The action is not harmful in itself but since you’re an admin, it gives you the unnecessary image of a haughty person that doesn’t like being around the majority of the people it manages/moderates, hence my observation. In the end, the intention was good but clumsy.

Hadesia says

Exactly, ty for clarifying. The action is not harmful in itself but since you’re an admin, it gives you the unnecessary image of a haughty person that doesn’t like being around the majority of the people it manages/moderates, hence my observation. In the end, the intention was good but clumsy.

¨Your english is kinda prem div hade! Are your sure you wanna hang out with the common ppl in this thread? B)

BearJankins says

SPEAKING AS A PLAYER - NOT AS A MOD the "don't vote me i'm afk" thingy usually ALWAYS works out. It's basically an unspoken rule that you should respect someone saying this. If you still vote him captain it can easily be considered trolling. And I felt really fucking trolled by you guys.

This is bullshit, friend. If you're afk and can't pick then leave the gather. This should be a rule. If a gather starts and somebody doesn't show after ten minutes they should get a cooldown. If they leave a gather after twelve have joined they should get cooldown. If they get voted captain and don't vote within the allotted time they should get a cooldown.

Joining a gather is an agreement that you are willing to captain if you were voted captain. If you can't deal with that responsibility, don't join the gather. Being able to just choose whether or not you want to captain is malarkey.

It's part of gather culture though, friend. Its has worked out so far - and it happens to be a really good opportunity to make food or w/e. I honestly don't understand what's so hard about just NOT voting the person who said they're afk (IN CAPSLOCK).
But - if you think this is a necessary change - you'll have to rely on the admins to make that decision.
And... "within the allotted time"

Hadesia you got something wrong, we knew bauer befor he was a moderator. he were already a troll, a natural troll if you want so. such persons just shouldnt be in staff.
Bauer you re always sorry about things you have done. you shouldnt be sorry about anything if you do your thing right. and yes there were a big topic on that no even a month ago. that alone should say enough.

I should reset some gathers. I want a personal drama thread, Germans seem to get them all. :(

Plz no ^^

Hello Folks,

We know that all the issues regarding Gathers are very important for everyone and we truly appreciate your concerns. The thought-process when it came to adding BauerJankins to our moderator team was that we needed a very active participant to help out and maybe through showing him the practice and difficulty of handling such aspects of the NSL we could transform a sometimes problematic player into a dependable community leader. When we received complaints against Bauer we tried to address and resolve the issues directly with him. We had asked him to exercise restraint when it came to using his moderator rights. Most situations can be handled without such intervention and we wanted him to understand this concept. We believe that everyone has the opportunity to improve themselves and grow as individuals, however, the behavior that continued to be demonstrated by Bauer was inadequate with what we needed in a moderator.

With that, we have decided to remove BauerJankins as a moderator and will now leave that slot vacant and open to applications.

In regards to what’s happening behind the scene, chris is still working on several plugins and features. Please have patience, chris is just one individual and he does all this work freely in his spare time. Some things we hope to see soon are better voting features such as “re-vote captains” and an autokick protocol. We have also been thinking about solving some problems with ELO system abuses, but we will leave those details out of this post until we can cross off some things from our already lengthy “To-Do” list.

Finally, we would like to thank everyone for the recent improvements of the general atmosphere. We’ve seen a growth in the the number of new players recently, so let's make an effort to retain them as they learn the ins and outs of competitive NS2. Keep it up!

-Admin Team