Well, I thought there is something fishy about NSL East/ Titus servers. They are all in the same location and I believe are provided by Wasabi. We used to have 80-120ms on East servers, similar to what NA guys have on Paris or London servers now. Few of the games we payed on NSL East, it was more like 140-180. So I did some research and if you look at bottom right there are the paths with what latency they add to the whole route:


If we take it form beginning, all is cool, looks like the carrier we get routed trough is XO with it's digest gateway in EU already, going to NY, but then there it goes to Michigan, which might be eastern time zone, but it's the added 20-30ms. Then the rest looks like local ISPs/Datacenters and we end up in Detroit. There is 2 points I could make:
1. XO as carrier sucks
2. Detroit is not really east server as London and Paris are "west"

But then I tried different ISP and main carrier is Level 3, which routes the shit all over USA before it hits Detroit again, similar range of latency.

So I checked the Kaneh's central servers and on both my ISPs I have similar or better latency than to NSL East servers. There is no routing all over the place by XO or Level 3.

So what is the conclusion? I don't wanna bash Wasabi or his provider for having shitty ISP partners and routes all over the place, but I wouldn't call them East servers and even if the routing is optimized, I don't think Detroit would count as East cause it's like 800km (or 500miles) inland. Any thoughts?

I thought I could trick you guys into being the server but it didn't work :(

Haven't they always been hosted in michigan?

Sardine says

Haven't they always been hosted in michigan?

That could be the case, but what's the explenation (spelling? xD) with the 90-120 to 180-190 ping increase? And take a note, the result would be different for us even if we would've had 20 in MS :)

Just wondering why they're called EAST when it's more like "Central" when the routing goes trough Michigan.

And werent they placed in New York by Multiplay?

Yes that's what i think, when NSL had original Multiplay servers from UWE, I think they were in New York. Or at least on the coast somewhere. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOEIruwzf54

Vindaloo says

Yes that's what i think, when NSL had original Multiplay servers from UWE, I think they were in New York. Or at least on the coast somewhere. :)

As far as I remember they were in New York, time to have "home" server in Russia when playing americans. =D

the "east" NSL servers should be renamed to central.
also the nsl "east" #2 server doesn't function well.

I think we're experiencing the same problem again with not having a real coast server, and hitting those 150+ spikes vs NA.

Why does the routing need to be handled in central america? Especially when Europe wants to receive some packets?

This is an example from Lubker in EAST/Florida : http://imgur.com/a/5Mwzz

Would be much better connection towards it if it had the routing like in NY or somewhere closer

>central america
>Missouri, Oklahoma, and Kansas
;_;

ryssk says

Why does the routing need to be handled in central america?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_America

Wikipedia says

Central America (Spanish: "América Central" or "Centroamérica") is the southernmost, isthmian portion of the North American continent, which connects with South America on the southeast.

Anyway, I will talk to the server owner about bringing it up to the provider but I wouldn't count on anything changing here.

Our best solution would be if someone was willing to host a toronto or ny server for ns2.

Deck says

Our best solution would be if someone was willing to host a toronto or ny server for ns2.

Find the price it would cost to run it through the season, then take donations up to that amount.

Deck says

Our best solution would be if someone was willing to host a toronto or ny server for ns2.

To rent a gaming server these days aint cheap.. And to host one private requires some high end hardware...

All we can hope is now that Tico maybe can manage somehow persuade Wasabi to rent or lend one for ESL purpose.. But then also, it requires that it isnt hosted by someone Who uses L3 or XO provider.. And by the looks L3 kinda owns The infrastrucure of NA in terms of communication...

Frozen says

Deck says

Our best solution would be if someone was willing to host a toronto or ny server for ns2.

Find the price it would cost to run it through the season, then take donations up to that amount.

TBH we should do this, I'd throw in a little bit as long as we don't get scammed for Tico's holidays.

ya