7 June 2020 - 02:12 CEST
'nough said
It´s time to ban Met
7 June 2020 - 02:15 CEST
Switching teams to TK two hives? Seems pretty clear cut bannable behaviour...
7 June 2020 - 02:28 CEST
Hello friends,
@Adz: The game was pretty much over 4v4 and it's not like zups hasn't done something similar in the past. But I apologize for not recognizing that you still wanted to play on.
@Trollbot:
https://ensl.gk-servers.de/public/index.php?dir=demos/&file=SPUTNIK-1-2006070124-ns_orbital_anslv2.dem
At 10:45 game time or (50:41 demo time) you placed mines on the generator hive PG and then blew them up with your hand grenades, when the game was still raging on. I witnessed it first hand from my POV and wasn't going to say anything to start a fire but you decided to make a thread about me... Watch from both of our POVs. Clearly a troll move and we weren't even losing hard at that point in the game.
@Adz: The game was pretty much over 4v4 and it's not like zups hasn't done something similar in the past. But I apologize for not recognizing that you still wanted to play on.
@Trollbot:
https://ensl.gk-servers.de/public/index.php?dir=demos/&file=SPUTNIK-1-2006070124-ns_orbital_anslv2.dem
At 10:45 game time or (50:41 demo time) you placed mines on the generator hive PG and then blew them up with your hand grenades, when the game was still raging on. I witnessed it first hand from my POV and wasn't going to say anything to start a fire but you decided to make a thread about me... Watch from both of our POVs. Clearly a troll move and we weren't even losing hard at that point in the game.
7 June 2020 - 04:12 CEST
Met, I really adore how sophisticated your trolling is. You should consider becoming the next president of the USA. Instead of blaming the WHO for your failure (if you get my point...) you should reflect on your mistakes and try to change some of your behaviour (like binding your goddamn ammo button).
It´s funny you actually trying to compare the situation at 10:45 with what your consistent mishaps. If you had me not muted in that game you would have know that I even told yufa that I accidentally blew up the mines with my nades. So please, focus on your own game.
7 June 2020 - 04:35 CEST
hitler never switched sides, and bit down a hive. but trump did! he used to be a democrat, switched sides bit down all the ideas he was saying was good before.
7 June 2020 - 04:53 CEST
You seem a little upset that Jericky allowed me to flash fade and made you rt/fade. If you watch the demo, anyone who believes that was an accident is an idiot. After I muted you and everyone moved on from your crying, it was pretty clear from the start that your intention was to troll marine side. You were suppose to be on cap team with me, yet you left me at port corridor and gen hive and veered off to do your own thing.
You blow at commanding and get defensive when hearing critical feedback that's meant to improve your comm. You are slow to med your marines, slow to get the upgrades we need in crucial moments and always fast to give up when situations don't play out to the tee as you planned in your mind.
You lack the basic leadership qualities. You're a support type of person, a follower of someone and not meant to lead. We basically have a follower in the chair trying to give us orders and lead us to victory. That's literally what I see every time you are in the chair. That is what 5 marines have to deal with every game when you are the commander. And to top it off you have a knack on doing boring shit like shotgun rushes when we still have a chance at victory. Just stay out of the chair bro. This right here is testament to why they hire men to do these types of jobs.
7 June 2020 - 06:50 CEST
I feel as a member of our community I need to make my own input on the situation. Also, as an AMERICAN member of the community, a community in which so many of its members are racist towards AMERICANS, I doubt I will get anything beyond a glossing look over this post. Nevertheless, as I was once a team mate with Met on team ANGF (Argentina No Good Fades) I feel compelled to voice my thoughts on his behalf.
Here are the facts of the situation:
-Met has improved as a player. I remember a game when I was commanding and I was trying to push a 2nd hive going up, and after deliberately giving orders and telling everyone to proceed to the hive push and wondering why the fuck only half of my marines were there, I looked around the map and I saw Met welding a resource node in double. I bet I wouldn't catch him doing that again.
-Met is willing to take on important roles. I can't tell you how often I have been captain and I ask, "Does anyone want to fade? Does anyone want to lerk?" and I'm met with radio silence (unless if Dreaming Fairy or Met is on my team). I can't speak for everyone that captains frequently, but I do know that some of us actually do not enjoy lifeforming every game, including myself.
-Met is reliable. When I registered my team to the Argentinian nightcup, one of them could not figure out in his own incompetency how to launch the game. The other couldn't set an alarm clock. It was Met who saved my team, who stepped in as a merc and allowed our team to prevail as the Argentinian World Champions. Messi would be proud.
-Met will try to listen. Unlike aldebaran, zups, or a handful of other mother fuckers in this community, if I tell Met to do something and if he's able to hear me over the jirikis and eisteets slobbering over their microphones to back seat command, I will watch him on the map and try to do what I ask of him.
-Europeans are easily triggered by Met simply by what he says, not what he does. This is a phenomenon that is equal parts sad and equal parts hilarious.
But no, seriously. If you ban Met then why not other people? The game in which he allegedly broke the 'rules' was unmistakably over. I don't know why anyone in their right mind would pretend otherwise just to get a ban on someone. I doubt anyone else will get banned for similar measures, which is unfair. Why not ban me for my emotional outbursts? Why not ban zups for doing whatever the fuck he wants and f4ing when he thinks the game is over, and then prolonging the game at other times? Why not ban aldebaran for not listening? Why not Dag Kam for arguing for days if he could? Why not ban jiriki for disrupting voice comms after being asked to keep them clear repeatedly by multiple players? Why not ban Fairy for being high as a fucking kite while he plays? Why not ban slipknot for being intoxicated out of his mind while he plays? Why not ban Gohan for not understanding English?
Here are the facts of the situation:
-Met has improved as a player. I remember a game when I was commanding and I was trying to push a 2nd hive going up, and after deliberately giving orders and telling everyone to proceed to the hive push and wondering why the fuck only half of my marines were there, I looked around the map and I saw Met welding a resource node in double. I bet I wouldn't catch him doing that again.
-Met is willing to take on important roles. I can't tell you how often I have been captain and I ask, "Does anyone want to fade? Does anyone want to lerk?" and I'm met with radio silence (unless if Dreaming Fairy or Met is on my team). I can't speak for everyone that captains frequently, but I do know that some of us actually do not enjoy lifeforming every game, including myself.
-Met is reliable. When I registered my team to the Argentinian nightcup, one of them could not figure out in his own incompetency how to launch the game. The other couldn't set an alarm clock. It was Met who saved my team, who stepped in as a merc and allowed our team to prevail as the Argentinian World Champions. Messi would be proud.
-Met will try to listen. Unlike aldebaran, zups, or a handful of other mother fuckers in this community, if I tell Met to do something and if he's able to hear me over the jirikis and eisteets slobbering over their microphones to back seat command, I will watch him on the map and try to do what I ask of him.
-Europeans are easily triggered by Met simply by what he says, not what he does. This is a phenomenon that is equal parts sad and equal parts hilarious.
But no, seriously. If you ban Met then why not other people? The game in which he allegedly broke the 'rules' was unmistakably over. I don't know why anyone in their right mind would pretend otherwise just to get a ban on someone. I doubt anyone else will get banned for similar measures, which is unfair. Why not ban me for my emotional outbursts? Why not ban zups for doing whatever the fuck he wants and f4ing when he thinks the game is over, and then prolonging the game at other times? Why not ban aldebaran for not listening? Why not Dag Kam for arguing for days if he could? Why not ban jiriki for disrupting voice comms after being asked to keep them clear repeatedly by multiple players? Why not ban Fairy for being high as a fucking kite while he plays? Why not ban slipknot for being intoxicated out of his mind while he plays? Why not ban Gohan for not understanding English?
7 June 2020 - 07:00 CEST
gobot is a faggot
7 June 2020 - 07:37 CEST
rofl attacking me
and clearly you seem to only attack others to justify your own tr0ll actions, a really bad move there
ban this k1d
and clearly you seem to only attack others to justify your own tr0ll actions, a really bad move there
ban this k1d
7 June 2020 - 07:41 CEST
ty bl1tz for your input here. Further, it was an honor carrying you and Team ANGF to becoming the Argentinian World Champions of NS1.
p.s. If you are ever again in search of CAL-main (CAL-p calibre) skill, please do keep in touch.
7 June 2020 - 11:47 CEST
All in favour of banning jiriki?
7 June 2020 - 14:49 CEST
"a community in which so many of its members are racist towards AMERICANS"
Sorry Blitz but that is actually not true.
- Met does not count as American because he insists that he lives in Hong Kong?
- We are only "racist" towards you and meta4 :-P.
Sorry Blitz but that is actually not true.
- Met does not count as American because he insists that he lives in Hong Kong?
- We are only "racist" towards you and meta4 :-P.
7 June 2020 - 14:58 CEST
It's a general problem which exists for a longer time during the gather games. The ENSL has a Code of Conduct (1) but violations against it doesn't get punished. And if they get punished it looks more like a Crane's Court Case (2) from the outside.
In this special case I would say 2.a.i. of the Code of Conduct has been violated. But thats only my personal opinion.
To handle things like that there should be a transparent and fair way for everybody i.e. a tribunal which gets replenished from a pool of willing people to get the decision away from one single person who get's influenced from the community.
Punishments should be inspired by "Sissa ibn Dahir" (3) exponential function which looks like:
y = 2*^(n-1)
where "n" is the amount of bans and y is days
Create a wall of shame.
Amnesty for previous bans.
#unbanMeta4
links:
(1) Code of Conduct: https://www.ensl.org/articles/1068
(2) Cranes Court Case: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-dJPoSlPfU&feature=youtu.be&t=16
(3) Sissa ibn Dahir: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sissa_(mythical_brahmin)
In this special case I would say 2.a.i. of the Code of Conduct has been violated. But thats only my personal opinion.
To handle things like that there should be a transparent and fair way for everybody i.e. a tribunal which gets replenished from a pool of willing people to get the decision away from one single person who get's influenced from the community.
Punishments should be inspired by "Sissa ibn Dahir" (3) exponential function which looks like:
y = 2*^(n-1)
where "n" is the amount of bans and y is days
Create a wall of shame.
Amnesty for previous bans.
#unbanMeta4
links:
(1) Code of Conduct: https://www.ensl.org/articles/1068
(2) Cranes Court Case: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-dJPoSlPfU&feature=youtu.be&t=16
(3) Sissa ibn Dahir: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sissa_(mythical_brahmin)
7 June 2020 - 15:11 CEST
thanks for your constructive reply Bacsu.
Also I have to add that strictly speaking blitz is right. A ban of Met would probably lead to some inconsistent treatment.
Also I have to add that strictly speaking blitz is right. A ban of Met would probably lead to some inconsistent treatment.
7 June 2020 - 15:52 CEST
#BANGOHAN
7 June 2020 - 16:17 CEST
Thanks for this guy, very entertaingin to read !
Also as Bacsu said there is no consistency in upholding the rules, therefore noone really gives a shit anymore.
It is partly the reason why this "community" is so fucking toxic that no sane person would play NS sober.
Much Love
EisTeeAT !
Also as Bacsu said there is no consistency in upholding the rules, therefore noone really gives a shit anymore.
It is partly the reason why this "community" is so fucking toxic that no sane person would play NS sober.
Much Love
EisTeeAT !
7 June 2020 - 16:55 CEST
nobody cares what i think but im throwin my two cents in
mets come a long way, but maybe him getting punished somehow for pissing off almost every player wouldnt be the worst thing?
also how long is meta4 banned for? whats going on with that? i liked to watch him play, hes like thee most intense player
ps: gobots a good comm :)
mets come a long way, but maybe him getting punished somehow for pissing off almost every player wouldnt be the worst thing?
also how long is meta4 banned for? whats going on with that? i liked to watch him play, hes like thee most intense player
ps: gobots a good comm :)
7 June 2020 - 17:50 CEST
Can't take you seriously now
7 June 2020 - 19:32 CEST
yeah jacknife, common. I am at least a superb comm – "good" is an insult.
10 June 2020 - 20:11 CEST
You are all wrong in different ways, some more than others, and that's why no one will be able to resolve anything and continue to argue instead. #gorgesMatter #gorgeLiberty
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14 July 2020 - 11:45 CEST
This is going into an interesting direction. I do not know what happened that game and I am also not really interested in looking into it.
So lets dive into it:
You say, that the community got members who are racist towards Americans. This is far from reality. The aggressiveness towards some Americans is not based on ancestry but on behavior. There is no European equivalent to Fairy, Clay, dagkam, Met, meta4 or you, bl1tz. And I really do not mean your skill but your sayings, your actions and other circumstances. At some point meta4's behavior reached an extent which made other players not want to play. Again people were not complaining about his skill but about his disrespectful behavior which was transporting pure hatred. I actually never had an issue with meta4 personally but his behavior towards others made me dislike him. I also had long talks with him and Tweadle, where we were begging him to change his attitude. He was not willing to do so and this is why he is no longer a part of the community. And if its on me, this will be the case until he apologizes and pledges improvement.
Yes, met is listening more, but he is being an asshole. He is the guy who never welds a building. He rambos with his jetpack instead. One situation which happened this Saturday which characterizes him: ns_metal, heating, met jp, hmg, welder with me jp,sg.
A fade and two skulks were attacking us. Both of us needed welding. I asked him for welding. Instead of welding me he fucking drops me the welder to weld him first. And when i welded him - you think he welded back? If this is the improvement you are talking about, this guy has a long way to go.
There are others who want to take important roles aswell. Just to name some AnimeLOL (lerk), dagkam(Fade), bollox(Fade)...
And his will to fade does not make met anyhow better. This guy does not know where to be, it is frustrating.
reliable? Why do we wait for him every fucking gather then? Congratulations, that this guy merced once when he was there.
Met *will* try to listen. He hears you well, he just does not want to do what you tell him. You can write him what you expect from him aswell. No chance.
Yes there are people who get triggered by met. Especially Lame and Dugi who even deny to play when he is there. It is an issue and I really do not know how to solve this issue. For me this guy is a noone.
I think at this point, the interpretation of the rules is very subjective and depending on the admin (jiriki) and people who have influence to him. However, the main measure for me at least, is not that people break certain rules, like being afk when being on a gather. We have to look at the community and decide whether players are disturbing the games for other to such an extent that others do not want to play. This is definetly the case with meta4 and met is on the same direction. I do not deny that the people you called disturb the game for you - but how sad it might sound - you're just one person with your own opinion about those people. There are people raging about zups but they would still play with him on one team. This is different with meta4 and it is different with met and dagkam.
So lets dive into it:
You say, that the community got members who are racist towards Americans. This is far from reality. The aggressiveness towards some Americans is not based on ancestry but on behavior. There is no European equivalent to Fairy, Clay, dagkam, Met, meta4 or you, bl1tz. And I really do not mean your skill but your sayings, your actions and other circumstances. At some point meta4's behavior reached an extent which made other players not want to play. Again people were not complaining about his skill but about his disrespectful behavior which was transporting pure hatred. I actually never had an issue with meta4 personally but his behavior towards others made me dislike him. I also had long talks with him and Tweadle, where we were begging him to change his attitude. He was not willing to do so and this is why he is no longer a part of the community. And if its on me, this will be the case until he apologizes and pledges improvement.
Yes, met is listening more, but he is being an asshole. He is the guy who never welds a building. He rambos with his jetpack instead. One situation which happened this Saturday which characterizes him: ns_metal, heating, met jp, hmg, welder with me jp,sg.
A fade and two skulks were attacking us. Both of us needed welding. I asked him for welding. Instead of welding me he fucking drops me the welder to weld him first. And when i welded him - you think he welded back? If this is the improvement you are talking about, this guy has a long way to go.
There are others who want to take important roles aswell. Just to name some AnimeLOL (lerk), dagkam(Fade), bollox(Fade)...
And his will to fade does not make met anyhow better. This guy does not know where to be, it is frustrating.
reliable? Why do we wait for him every fucking gather then? Congratulations, that this guy merced once when he was there.
Met *will* try to listen. He hears you well, he just does not want to do what you tell him. You can write him what you expect from him aswell. No chance.
Yes there are people who get triggered by met. Especially Lame and Dugi who even deny to play when he is there. It is an issue and I really do not know how to solve this issue. For me this guy is a noone.
I think at this point, the interpretation of the rules is very subjective and depending on the admin (jiriki) and people who have influence to him. However, the main measure for me at least, is not that people break certain rules, like being afk when being on a gather. We have to look at the community and decide whether players are disturbing the games for other to such an extent that others do not want to play. This is definetly the case with meta4 and met is on the same direction. I do not deny that the people you called disturb the game for you - but how sad it might sound - you're just one person with your own opinion about those people. There are people raging about zups but they would still play with him on one team. This is different with meta4 and it is different with met and dagkam.
16 July 2020 - 03:42 CEST
Mp is a faggot, plz ban, just uesless sjhtit
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23 July 2020 - 08:55 CEST
[quote=macpersil]This is going into an interesting direction. I do not know what happened that game and I am also not really interested in looking into it.
So lets dive into it:
is mp retarded?
So lets dive into it:
is mp retarded?
23 July 2020 - 20:32 CEST
Woah, bring this back from the dead real? I thought this issue was already resolved.
[quote=meta4]
And meta4, this is really uncalled for...Please show some respect to players in this community, there's several different ways you could have asked this question graciously if you wanted more insight on a person's limitations.
But to address, I cannot agree or disagree. I can only offer that I know he is not, not retarded.
Hope this helps.
Regards
Met
[quote=meta4]
And meta4, this is really uncalled for...Please show some respect to players in this community, there's several different ways you could have asked this question graciously if you wanted more insight on a person's limitations.
But to address, I cannot agree or disagree. I can only offer that I know he is not, not retarded.
Hope this helps.
Regards
Met
23 July 2020 - 21:48 CEST
MP, you do realize that the contents of my post were largely a joke, right? It wasn't until the end of it when I prefaced my final paragraph with 'But no, seriously' that I decided to voice my genuine thoughts about it. Not only that, but I used myself as an example first before anyone else in hopes that people would understand that I know my behavior is disruptive towards games at times, just as much if not more as anyone else.
But seeing as how you were so kind to deconstruct my post, point by point, I'll return the favor...
This is the first instance of you contradicting yourself. If you are not interested in looking into it... why are you bothering to reply? Not only that... but why are you responding a month and a half later when the incident is over? You weren't even around when this happened. Doesn't make sense but okay. You seem to have a habit of aggravating issues long after they are over for whatever reason. Maybe you should go bring up years and years old threads on discord of you accusing Tane of exploiting the game again?
I don't know why you feel entitled to have an opinion on a subject you know nothing about.
The person who made the thread, Gobot, even admitted that he probably overreacted to the situation. And we all do at times. NS is just that kind of game that brings tension out, which is why it is such a classic game. It doesn't help that playing this game is a huge time investment for people since people are not punctual to the gathers. Once again, you decided you wanted to irritate and bring the issue back up to have your own say.
You do realize that you can't actually be racist towards Americans? It's not a race. The technical term would be xenophobia. You already missed the point of the post, but since English isn't your native language and you can't see the nuances of it, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.
And since you want to group people together — a few of which who aren't even American, mind you — I'll do the same. Sadly, it's this sort of thinking of lumping people together that incites the actual stigmas of prejudice.
What's the American equivalent to jiriki? Someone who mumbles incoherently over their microphone for an entire game without actually saying anything productive. And despite being told to chill on the comms by multiple people over the course of years, he still hasn't changed his behavior.
How about Bestvon? The guy who would prefer to bite down a CC even though there's a secondary chair on the map while his main hive is being sieged despite being told not to? How about the countless times where I've told him to put the first MC on the left side cargo vent only to see him putting it elsewhere?
What about Eisteet? He talks just as much as Clay does over nonsensical things unrelated to the game and makes horrible calls.
Dugi? This guy has shouted as just as many people as I have. What point are you driving at here?
Zups? Vartija? Judas? Aldebaran? Keks? Bascu? Gobot? NS_Playa? I can name numerous instances where their behavior was equally as insane as anyone you just mentioned. What about the emotional outbursts from yourself or Tweadle? It's very strange and alarming to me that you throw in a group of names and generalize people's behavior. I'm starting to believe that you hold utter contempt for people in NA.
I don't judge people in this game by their nationality, unlike yourself. I judge them by how they play the game. I've flamed everyone regardless of their nationality. I don't care if they're American or from Zimbabwe. For you to insinuate there's a massive difference in behavior from country to country is hilarious to me when the game has far more low skilled players than high skilled ones. I'd argue that Dag Kam has a much calmer disposition than yourself towards the games, but because you dislike him and don't understand his path of logic, you automatically lump him together with the aforementioned group of people whose behavior you apparently dislike. I remember a game where he dropped an OC where you didn't like it and you proceeded to freak out on him for thirty minutes. But you won't bring that up, huh?
Why are you even bringing up meta4 to begin with? I thought this was a post about Met and you're barely even talking about him so far. Just because meta4 has the word 'met' in it doesn't mean they're the same person. Another subtlety of the English language that has managed to slip past you I guess.
I was in these conversations where you were 'begging' meta4 to change. I don't really agree with the wording here — it was more of 'you change or we'll ban you', not begging. But enough about meta4. The post shouldn't really be about him. Isn't he banned already? I don't understand why you are bringing him up. Your obsession with him, even when he's not allowed to play, is very strange to me.
So you agree with me that he's listening more. But him not welding you is enough to trigger you when I can think of numerous people who haven't welded me back and I'm sure the same thing has happened to you. But because you dislike Met and not other low skill players, you're willing to single him out and make an example out of him rather than other people who haven't welded you back. Interesting.
False. Just because you show up to play a handful of games after being inactive does not give you a large enough sample size to know if people are consistently willing to volunteer to lifeform. You really like pulling shit out from your ass, don't you?
I never claimed his will to fade made him better, but he's at least willing to try to improve and make mistakes, where as other players are simply too afraid to. But you act as if AnimeLOL knows where to be as a lerk, or dagkam as a fade, or Bollox... hilarious that you're continuously singling Met out like this. He has more much potential to get better at this game than many other players that have been playing for years, but your hatred of him blinds you to this fact. I don't really like Met myself despite coming to his defense during my post. But I'm a fan of justice and consistency in rules. A trait that I can see you don't share with me because you're more interested in punishing people by a case by case basis based on your dislike for them over anything else.
But seeing as how you were so kind to deconstruct my post, point by point, I'll return the favor...
This is the first instance of you contradicting yourself. If you are not interested in looking into it... why are you bothering to reply? Not only that... but why are you responding a month and a half later when the incident is over? You weren't even around when this happened. Doesn't make sense but okay. You seem to have a habit of aggravating issues long after they are over for whatever reason. Maybe you should go bring up years and years old threads on discord of you accusing Tane of exploiting the game again?
I don't know why you feel entitled to have an opinion on a subject you know nothing about.
The person who made the thread, Gobot, even admitted that he probably overreacted to the situation. And we all do at times. NS is just that kind of game that brings tension out, which is why it is such a classic game. It doesn't help that playing this game is a huge time investment for people since people are not punctual to the gathers. Once again, you decided you wanted to irritate and bring the issue back up to have your own say.
You do realize that you can't actually be racist towards Americans? It's not a race. The technical term would be xenophobia. You already missed the point of the post, but since English isn't your native language and you can't see the nuances of it, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.
And since you want to group people together — a few of which who aren't even American, mind you — I'll do the same. Sadly, it's this sort of thinking of lumping people together that incites the actual stigmas of prejudice.
What's the American equivalent to jiriki? Someone who mumbles incoherently over their microphone for an entire game without actually saying anything productive. And despite being told to chill on the comms by multiple people over the course of years, he still hasn't changed his behavior.
How about Bestvon? The guy who would prefer to bite down a CC even though there's a secondary chair on the map while his main hive is being sieged despite being told not to? How about the countless times where I've told him to put the first MC on the left side cargo vent only to see him putting it elsewhere?
What about Eisteet? He talks just as much as Clay does over nonsensical things unrelated to the game and makes horrible calls.
Dugi? This guy has shouted as just as many people as I have. What point are you driving at here?
Zups? Vartija? Judas? Aldebaran? Keks? Bascu? Gobot? NS_Playa? I can name numerous instances where their behavior was equally as insane as anyone you just mentioned. What about the emotional outbursts from yourself or Tweadle? It's very strange and alarming to me that you throw in a group of names and generalize people's behavior. I'm starting to believe that you hold utter contempt for people in NA.
I don't judge people in this game by their nationality, unlike yourself. I judge them by how they play the game. I've flamed everyone regardless of their nationality. I don't care if they're American or from Zimbabwe. For you to insinuate there's a massive difference in behavior from country to country is hilarious to me when the game has far more low skilled players than high skilled ones. I'd argue that Dag Kam has a much calmer disposition than yourself towards the games, but because you dislike him and don't understand his path of logic, you automatically lump him together with the aforementioned group of people whose behavior you apparently dislike. I remember a game where he dropped an OC where you didn't like it and you proceeded to freak out on him for thirty minutes. But you won't bring that up, huh?
Why are you even bringing up meta4 to begin with? I thought this was a post about Met and you're barely even talking about him so far. Just because meta4 has the word 'met' in it doesn't mean they're the same person. Another subtlety of the English language that has managed to slip past you I guess.
I was in these conversations where you were 'begging' meta4 to change. I don't really agree with the wording here — it was more of 'you change or we'll ban you', not begging. But enough about meta4. The post shouldn't really be about him. Isn't he banned already? I don't understand why you are bringing him up. Your obsession with him, even when he's not allowed to play, is very strange to me.
So you agree with me that he's listening more. But him not welding you is enough to trigger you when I can think of numerous people who haven't welded me back and I'm sure the same thing has happened to you. But because you dislike Met and not other low skill players, you're willing to single him out and make an example out of him rather than other people who haven't welded you back. Interesting.
False. Just because you show up to play a handful of games after being inactive does not give you a large enough sample size to know if people are consistently willing to volunteer to lifeform. You really like pulling shit out from your ass, don't you?
I never claimed his will to fade made him better, but he's at least willing to try to improve and make mistakes, where as other players are simply too afraid to. But you act as if AnimeLOL knows where to be as a lerk, or dagkam as a fade, or Bollox... hilarious that you're continuously singling Met out like this. He has more much potential to get better at this game than many other players that have been playing for years, but your hatred of him blinds you to this fact. I don't really like Met myself despite coming to his defense during my post. But I'm a fan of justice and consistency in rules. A trait that I can see you don't share with me because you're more interested in punishing people by a case by case basis based on your dislike for them over anything else.
23 July 2020 - 21:50 CEST
I love how you come into a conversation without having any fucking clue as to what's going on and proceed to sit on your morale high ground chair like you're the single human compass to determine what's right or wrong. I said this comment because Admirable was on my team's roster for the night cup and despite him saying that he was ready to play, he never showed up on time. It was a slight to Admirable — in a joking manner — who was complaining about Met at the time of these posts.
You act as though Met is the single only person who is tardy to gathers. How many times have we waited for Lame and you've never said anything about it? But you'll say something about Fairy and Met because you don't like them. Interesting. You can ask Met if I've been upset at him for being late. I have yelled at him about it. He apologized to me about it. He is late to the gathers because he has a tendency to sign while he is working. Until he's punished by the admins, he has no reason to change what he's doing.
Not only that... but what about yourself? Lol. You've been late more than once. You've also not shown up several times. You've also left mid-game to do other things, while people could hear you talking aloud to someone on your open mic, only to never to return. I guess your time is so much more valuable than everyone else, huh? I've lost more respect for you with this single comment than your entire post combined. Classic hypocrite. Honestly pathetic.
The only person who seems to take this issue of tardiness seriously besides myself without reservations towards anyone is Tweadle. Sadly I don't have any administrative powers despite being held responsible for these people being late because I am often a captain, so my only method of doing anything about it is yelling at them.
....Yes, he will try to listen? Not for the first time you've contradicted yourself. I've coached Met's fade. He will try to do what I ask of him within his capabilities as a player. I can't say the same for a lot of players that I've tried to help. I never said he was 'good'. I said he has improved. I think Jackknife has improved but I still wouldn't trust him to navigate his way out of a paper bag as a fade.
I shouldn't need to remind you I was the first person who was ever triggered by Met. When I was commanding a game and after telling my marines to push a second hive growing, he was welding a node in double.
There's more players than just Met who don't listen. I've tried typing commands, talking in various pitches my voice, and shouting at people. People simply cannot follow instructions in Natural Selection for whatever reason, and it's not just Met.
Yeah in America we call these people 'snowflakes'. Apparently you are also triggered by him. I don't know. I find this hilarious. What's most hilarious is that Lame is triggered by Met's 'American' antics... when they're both fucking Chinese? Wildly hilarious to me.
Honestly don't know what to tell you. Ban him so you can play with your boyfriends again? It's not like the ENSL community has any consistency with rules as the admins have continuously proved time and time again. Bascu touched on this subject in his own post. There's a code of conduct but because no one cares enough to enforce it, and because there's not enough players to sustain a scene in NS, the admins choose to let whatever slide because they prioritize playing the game than not playing it. Until then, the admins will pick and choose who they punish because they have the mental fortitude of 13 year old girls.
Really? Wow. No shit. I've spoken to Jiriki about admining the community. He doesn't want to. If he bans certain people, there's less people to play in already small/dead game. If he doesn't, the scene will continue to eat itself within to the point of where there's nothing left, because people can't get along. We've reached that stage now.
P.S. You are welcome for the reading material Zups you inbred fucking mongoloid.
P.S.S. Had to post this in two posts because of character limit on the forums.
28 July 2020 - 23:47 CEST
wait... what?
:DDDDDD
I think it is time we need to discuss this on Ts3 in a proper gather full of drama.
Other than that: Yeah consistency is important, I agree. And I guess there is NOT enough hard evidence right now to ban Met. What made me create this thread is that Met is pretty consistent in what he does ( I consider it trolling) and I think he does it way more than anyone else – besides meta4.