all these random forfeits being handed out.

we (Singularity) schedualed with seraphic nexus. They only had three 30 mins after the match was supposed to start, so soz! awarded us a FF win. The match page however is give us a double forfiet for wahtever reason.

Same with our match vs radical. we had originally pushed it back a week, but randomly awarded forfeit wins without any admin/ref contacting me and just 'assuming' that we did not respond.

I dont' know what's going on, but whoever's just assuming things is pretty much just turning this into more of a joke than it already is.

ensl!

new rules, suggest u read them :)
simplified:
If game not played by default time/week-> double forfeit until played
if one team dont comment on match page -> that team get an autoforeit until played(i guess)

If i understood everything right. Guess its because of all the teams that are so far behind with there matches.

Doesn't appear to have been handled the same on all matches. Both teams had posted in the NLG/EO match, yet NLG was awarded a forfeit win. It's going to be played obviously, however it seems to just be random as opposed to any sort of actual logic applied.

I'm all for encouraging matches to be played and communication to happen.

Maybe forfeits should ONLY be given like this if one team // both teams don't have any communication on the match page. If it's obvious they're trying to work it out, then I don't see why forfeits should be given. Especially for THE CURRENT WEEK. We just started default times for week 4. Why don't we give it a week to hand out the forfeits? Once week four starts, give forfeits for week 3 if there is no plans/discussion on scheduling.

I feel like this went from one extreme to the other.

Wtf !!!

We were ready!!!! You penalize everybody with your change of rules at the last minute.
We said yes to play fair and we are penalized fucking organization !!!

Folks calm down...

swalk

All types of forfeits can be replayed at a later date. It is simply to display that it is wrong not to have a schedule set up at default time.

this is not correct!
why declare forfeits all the teams? if a team decides not to play a game, it's as if she put conced 0-4 in the game so ...
Now everyone has a life outside the game .. therefore not always a time suitable for matches scheduled. It should also be able to understand the players and not only simplify your task in your organization ... so repport matches should always be applied.

Thank you for your understanding!

Guys, this is the new procedure. Nattai pretty much got it nailed down. The rules are exactly the same as last season, except the matches didn't get forfeited when they had no schedule set at default time. Now with the rule change, matches that does not have a schedule set at default time will be forfeited. You can still play your matches, nothing have really changed. Except that it is now shown to people that NOT setting up a schedule before default time is WRONG.

No one should be unnessesarily penalized. I had put a double forfeit on Singularity vs Seraphic Nexus because the match was overdue of the scheduled time and there was no result. I already corrected that.

If one team does not have any response on the match page, we will take that as the team is not responding and the match will get forfeited in their opponents favor. That is why Singularity vs RadicaL was forfeited in RadicaL's favor. The match is now scheduled and is a double forfeit.

When matches get a schedule set up, a match forfeit in one teams favor becomes a double forfeit until the match is played and we have a result.

This does not simplify anything for us, it actually gives me more work if anything. All of this is pure logic from looking at the match comments of every match. Read the Season Rules, section 2.e.4. http://www.ensl.org/articles/714

The rule is harsh, but it will not change. There was a dire need for a harsh rule in terms of scheduling the matches and now it is there. Set a schedule on the match page before the default times if you want to avoid the forfeits.

swalk

Guys, this is the new procedure. Nattai pretty much got it nailed down. The rules are exactly the same as last season, except the matches didn't get forfeited when they had no schedule set at default time. Now with the rule change, matches that does not have a schedule set at default time will be forfeited. You can still play your matches, nothing have really changed. Except that it is now shown to people that NOT setting up a schedule before default time is WRONG.

No one should be unnessesarily penalized. I had put a double forfeit on Singularity vs Seraphic Nexus because the match was overdue of the scheduled time and there was no result. I already corrected that.

If one team does not have any response on the match page, we will take that as the team is not responding and the match will get forfeited in their opponents favor. That is why Singularity vs RadicaL was forfeited in RadicaL's favor. The match is now scheduled and is a double forfeit.

When matches get a schedule set up, a match forfeit in one teams favor becomes a double forfeit until the match is played and we have a result.

This does not simplify anything for us, it actually gives me more work if anything. All of this is pure logic from looking at the match comments of every match. Read the Season Rules, section 2.e.4. http://www.ensl.org/articles/714

The rule is harsh, but it will not change. There was a dire need for a harsh rule in terms of scheduling the matches and now it is there. Set a schedule on the match page before the default times if you want to avoid the forfeits.

I understand where you are coming from. I think part of the issue stems from the fact that matches that many people view as "starting this week" (ie Week 4 matches) were forfeited. I think all players in the league, by default, expect to reschedule their match from the default time, or expect to get in touch with the team they are playing that week a day before, or the day of the week starting. Week 4 is considered widely to START on sunday at the default time, and END the following sunday at the default time week 5 starts.

As such, they see the forfeits being handed out at the start of the week as unnecessary in both "punishment" as well as unnecessary for the refs to have to change the scores TWICE once it is scheduled and played. It is also incredibly misleading to those spectators who are just trying to get the up-and-up on division scores, seeing a bunch of forfeits, then checking back a week later and seeing all the scores changed around. No consistency.

So I agree with Decoy in saying I think that the auto-forfeit should happen the way it does now after 1 week of failed time negotiation/play. This means week 4 matches don't get forfeitted until the start of week 5, and so on.

@Simba Alright, makes sense. I will use that approach from now on, I will adjust the rules accordingly.